With breakdown of Russian-Israeli “understandings” for S. Syria, Israel will strike Iranian targets
DEBKAfile Exclusive: The US-Russian-Israel formula for South Syria, composed in painstaking discussions for weeks, is not working. This became clear in phone conversations on Friday, July 20, between Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and President Vladimir Putin and their defense ministers. The “understandings” they had apparently reached were proving inoperable, including Russia’s guarantees for the non-presence of Iranian militias and Hizballah near Israel’s Golan border.
The breakdown stemmed from an abrupt Russian U-turn. Russian diplomats were suddenly claiming that Moscow never agreed to have Iranian proxies and Hizballah pushed back from the Israel border or out of Syria at large. According to DEBKAfile’s military sources, Netanyahu and Lieberman responded to this discovery by declaring that Israel would now feel free to wipe out any positions or bases those pro-Iranian and Hizballah forces, fighting with Syrian army units, may set up in Daraa and Quneitra. Strikes would also continue as before against those targets in other parts of Syria.
Only two understandings survived the Russian-Israeli leaders’ phone calls on Friday,:
- The Russian-IDF military coordination mechanism in Syria would continue to function to avert clashes.
- The Russian military would not interfere with Israel military operations in Syria.
Moscow’s abrupt reversion to the status quo ante effectively erased President Donald Trump’s disclosure in Helsinki just four days earlier of a collaborative effort agreed between the US, Russia and Israel at his summit with the Russian leader: He told reporters: “President Putin is also helping Israel. We both spoke to Bibi Netanyahu. They would like to do certain things with respect to Syria, having to do with the safety of Israel. In that respect, we absolutely would like to work in order to help Israel. Israel will be working with us. So both countries would work jointly.”
Netanyahu discovered when he talked to Putin on Friday that the Russian leader has no interest in working together for “the safety of Israel”– certainly not in the way it is understood in Washington and Jerusalem. Their relations on the personal level will likely remain, but security ties at the strategic level will be wound back to their low point of a year ago.
73 thoughts on “With breakdown of Russian-Israeli “understandings” for S. Syria, Israel will strike Iranian targets”
Good,it accelerate Golan height liberation
Stop deluding yourself. Your friends (like all the others) are going to die. None of them have even close to the IDF. You are, like them, a joke. Weak.
THE DELUSION IS YOUR BRAIN WASHED PEOPLE WHO WERE NEVER TAUGHT ABOUT THE HUMILATING VICTORY OF THE IDF WHEN MOBILIZES FOR FULL SCALE WAR AS 48 67 73
EGYPT AND JORDAN SYRIANS BEGGING THE UN FOR A CEASE FIRE THE IDF 80 KM FROM CAIRO ALL YOU YOUNG PUNKS UNDER 40 HAVE ONLY SEEN LIMITED IDF STRIKES . YOU WILL LEARN AS YOUR FATHERS DID YOUR 3RD RATEE IRIANIAN BUDDIES WHO COULD NOT EVEN WIN A WAR FOR 8 YEARS AGENST A SHIT HOLE IRAQ BETTER NOT SHOOT ONE MISSILE AT ISRAEL OR A HOLE IN THE EARTH WITH HELL WILL OPEN UNDER IRAN FROM THE MIGHTY REGIONAL SUPERPOWER ISRAEL
You idiots can’t even take out Hamas
Those UN protected endangered species? They could be sooner or later and dickheads like you will scream “death to Israel” stopping short of actually going to Gaza to fight with the terrorists because you got no balls to face the IDF on the ground. All you can do is ask the UN to stop Israel from destroying Hamas.
Lot of ignorance and hate in Israel is the conclusion for everyone that read this comment section. Too bad this kind of embarrassing comments are allowed on a analytic top tier news site like this.
Behold, as a lion that ascends from the heights of the Jordan to a strong dwelling, when I bring the moment [that] I will hasten them over her, for who is like Me and who will appoint Me a time, and who is a shepherd who will stand before Me?
Well isn’t this great…..British, Yankee and Mossadi backed White helmet terrorist mercs are being evacuated out of Syria. Stupid losers, and guess where they will be going? To Europe and America, where the goyim will be expected to “host” these worthless assets.
Worthlessess assets you said?? Stupid MF, these”assets” had saved countless lives under crimimals Putin and Assad bombings…you should shut your stupid speaking @$$.
The Golan Heights are liberated….Try to keep up____
YES AND LETS MAKE IT A 3 FOR ONE SALE GAZA BACK TO ISRAEL ARABS ALL INTO THE SINI
SOUTH LEBANON A DMZ
putin the snake
obama the evil paid iran 100 billion dollars and Iran is paying russia to be in syria… ie for russia and Iran to be in syria
They are in Syria fighting ISRAELI backed terrorists……listen you can talk shiite all day long but people everywhere are waking up your twisted lies and logic…….it is not working anymore and you are desperate….even staging soldier deaths like the other day……..total bullshit story !!
uh, yeah, right, israel needs to fake casualties… because hamas isn’t a terrorist group? or because your fevered joo-hating brain can’t get enough of those ridiculous conspiracy theories?
go play in traffic troll.
Each event in the Middle East today reflects the nuances of the O.T. prophet, Ezekiel writing God’s message 2500 years ago. The Commander-in-Chief of the King of the North and her allies will act with deceit and guile prior to Israel down fall at Armaggedon. Read 38v14-15.
Messiah returns to save those that remain and finally they will recognise him. The events today are just minor twists and turns before the end.
The children of Israel are going astray because they don’t want to understand the Word of God and be saved!
In spite of all what is taking place of mounting and approaching threats they are still trying to strike deals, depend on their intelligence and wealth.
Gog & magog is approaching on their boarder, the King of the North (Turkey, Iran, and others) is being formed, etc. and they are yet not awakened!
The same path of Jacob but not learning from Jacob’s history that finally he realized that only God can save him from tribulation!
You hit it right on the nose.
The soviets control the Middle East.Point!
Not for long! Watch!
Well, based on all the Reports looks like Israel, Russia, Syria, Iran, and America have set the stage waiting for the next move letting each other know what stakes are in this Continued Game’s of Hearts and Minds reacting to each others Bluster and Frustrations.
ISRAEL is now poised to hit back at Iranians in Syria and Iran’s Hamas Servants in Gaza. Israel will continue Air Strikes as Warnings grow stronger depending on Iran and their Hamas Boys moves to Escalate, Devastate and Wait.
SYRIA is happy its all going Assad and Alawites way but still fighting ISIS and Syrian Opposition White Helmets now dependent and living in Israel Golan’s Heights as they regroup knowing their families are safe. Syria just wants it all to end, but has to wait before playing its holding card.
RUSSIA is just happy it still has Cards to Play with America and Europe getting back into G-7 and willing to resolve Crimean Annexation to their Advantage. Russia is glad it is this waiting Game for now.
IRAN, the Junkyard Dogs Barking and Boasting out of Fear gives out Bluffing Sanction Positions, but has its Russia Chain pulling anyway it wants in the future. Iran faces increased U.S. pressure and looming Sanctions after Trump’s withdraw of the 2015 International Deal over Iran’s Nuclear Program.
AMERICA, Washington is waiting and planning to soon destabilize Iran’s Islamic government, as Trump’s Deadlines on Sanctions begin in August and November. Washington can choose New Talks when Iran agrees as well, or Washington can choose to increase destabilizing Iran’s Islamic Government. The Mid-Term Elections can impact on America’s Behavior and again that is in November just when Iran’s sanctions are put in or delayed.
The waiting Game favors America, Russia, and Israel, and gives Syria more time. It does not favor Iran because Sanctions are looming and to avoid them they have to find a way to initiate Talks while showing weakness to their Servant Salary Fighters Hamas, Yemen Houtis and Iraq Shiia seeing they are just Iran’s Pawns fro Death with no Gains in Prosperity!
Those that can Wait are in a Superior Position and those that have to do as they are Told, just show they lack the Power to Change any Outcome. If they Fight they know they will Lose and will have to take Flight. If they remain Tight the Time can Run Out, making them Full of Fright. Either way, the Nations that Count can Wait and Choose the Time and it is not Iran nor Syria.
Don’t blink. you might miss it.
Great outcome since with Putin reneging it follows
1. Israel resumes direct responsibility for its defence
2. Trump , expert at reciting the snake, will know Putin for one
3. Trump must punish Russia’s economy to break the Russian federation
You are very arrogant aren’t you…..Israel’s economy is faltering….nobody will be buying anything….
This is Ezekiel 38/39… The prelude. Sorry. But read Ezekiel 22. – Gods plan is to cause Jews to return to Jerusalem. And then destroy them. And liberate the land to give it back to His Israel… The type of Jew in Israel is by large not exactly chosen at all… But Israel is… And the land will be restored back to the ancient Israelis before the Jews came and took over Judea… And as a matter of fact Israel will be for everyone that has a calling. The days of the Talmud and Jewish deception is nearly over…
God wants Israel to return to Him first then He will bring them to the Land by His own strength and dealings!
Israel trying to bypass the repentance-first and coming back by their own strength will end in destruction as indicated in Old & New Testament prophesies.
In Revelation 1:7, first the true worshipers of God from the children of Israel will recognize the One whom they have pierced.
Learn from history how Israel returned from captivity in Babylon and other, and how they were saved from all through their history it was only by returning to God and He would move everything to save and do good to all who call upon Him!
@Anonymous…………..I don’t pretend to know G-d nor speak for G-d on what he wants. I just note others before my existence in spirit, mind, and body established G-d as they say he revealed himself to them. They one sole Concept that rises above all others in that mankind can only survive by meeting, greeting, and help needing each other when Strangers become Family and Enemies can become Friends. These are found in Judaism Roots that produce Christian and Islamic Fruits that follow One and the Same G-d, but has described by mere Men labeling that One G-d many names.
Those that refuse to follow this simple concept in the Name of any Nation, Saluting any Flag, or Kneeling, Sitting or Standing cannot refute the Wisdom of that Pathway to Peace, Prosperity, and for all of Mankind Posterity.
Everyone has this same Guiding G-d Enlightenment within ourselves and one knows when they choose to practice it or reject it, and that can cause conflict or compassion among all of us.
When those in Jerusalem, Rome, Mecca, Moscow, Beirut, Damascus, Tehran, and Gaza, accept one another as a Friend or Family for a better Middle East than all Prophecies of Jehovah, and Allah, as sent by Messengers of Moses, Jesus, and Mohamed will be fulfilled by G-d. This also includes those that practice Buddhism in Asia as well or any Anonymous anywhere believing and doing the same thing to learn, educate, and share such a message that dates back to Abraham.
To Goober: You need to leave your mom’s basement to cash your welfare check.
You are a fool. Read Joel 3. ALL OF IT!
Really quite wierd that our enemies are actually about to cleanse the Land… So in a really twisted fashion. They are about to sort of do God’s will (in a bizarre way?). I suppose… If you can handle the truth. They are about to clean the land land up. And the outcome will be… That the land will be liberated back to the original Israelis. This time with a pure heart. (Especially after what they have to go through). And the remains of the rest of the world shall dwell here together as a unified people of God. – without fanatics. Without religion. Just us and God…
the people fail to acknowledge that Israel is elected, not born. Fail to acknowledge that it is the Lord God who chooses and elects sons, and not the wisdom of men, which is folly. Jacob is every man. Lest we forget that the Lord God of Israel has not even withheld the life of His own messiah and the lives of His righteous prophets to convey that truth. So, remember, nations are vanity, but the branch of the wicked shall not prosper. It’s evolution, dummy.
Say it again:Putin can’t be trusted.What have all these talks achieved?I my view wasted time that better was used on striking the Iranians/Hezzies.That’s the only message Putin under stands and the Helsinki meeting was more of the same.( Trump is in Putin pocket ).
Keep supporting the terrorists ISISrael…….just like your pathetic evacuation of WHITE HELMET terrorists……the game is up cowboys
ISISlam – that’s why the ISISlam flag has ARABIC writing on it.
What “breakdown”? Putingog of Magog tickled Bibi’s ears with lies for the umpteenth time. Bibi swallowed the Russian’s lies hook, line and sinker – again! Since when have European lies amounted to viable security assurances for Israel. When will Israel wake up to reality?
-Why does Debka provide a platform for anti-Semites to spew their lies and their filth?
Maybe so everyone can see the depravity of their retardation
To alert it’s readers.
as many have warned bibi& trump etc never trust the ruskies , time to hit Iran but I doubt, it needs new blood at top in Isreal
Actually, if the two points they agree to are not violated by the Russians, then Israel has an oportunity to wipe out Hezbollah, doesn’t it? There is no perfect scenarios in war and if Russia maintains a blind eye as Israel wears down those Iranians and proxies who are an existential threat then that is good – so go for it!
Facts and not words Mr. Bibi……too many words and the Russian bear is not very intellectual so please talk
less and do more….thank you
I told you before and I tell you now: Russia is an enemy. Now they are positioning themselves for the next step. Russia Irán and Siria are looking for the destruction of Israel and the West. Ucraine and Siria are part of a big plan. Not only in Europe and the Middle East. Also in South Mediterranean Sea countries.
Israel must cooperate with NATO and the US and erradicate enemy forces in Siria before they are strong enough for and attack against Israel.
You need to get rid of your Putin sucking resident and the Russian low life in your government whose loyalty is to Russia and not Israel.Then actually strike your enemy instead of putting a show on for the public which is a complete charade
To all ye who seeth history is already written in the rolls of Tora, noteth that Russia did not exist in those times.
All intents to put the present news in the words of ancient Propheths is worthless and devoid of sense.
Yes you were at that time living on the trees, wrapped yourself in animal skins, and were raping each other’s women and cracking each other’s skulls. By chance you dealt with you and your weapons in 1967, during the War of Attrition, google the battle over Canal, and 1973. From personal experience we know that you understand only good kick in the balls with iron clad boot and with rifle butt in your teeth.
One of two things happened. 1. The Russians realized Iran was not going to follow instructions from Moscow. 2. Russia decided Iranian forces staying in Syrias was something they could support in order not to lose the relationship with Tehran.
As for me, I put my background on the fist issue beaing true. Why? It would explain why the Russians would be willing to sit back and let the Iranian forces in Syria be destroyed. “ We told you so”, would be the words Tehran would once again hear from Moscow. Agreeing on ceconfliction with the IDF is another true sign the Russians understand the IDF will strike.
Here is the part that we should worry about. Tehran has used a phrase I think they have forgotten was used years ago. “ The Mother of all wars”! That is Tehran’s warning to the US. Why? The statement about the straits was deliberate. Iran knows the US will not tolerate, nor will the rest of the world, such an event. To threaten “ The Mother of all wars” is a further escalation of Tehan’s war of words. Again, the forget the US has hear this phrase before and that Mother of a war lasted 100 hrs and ended with Iriaq’s military destroyed.
If the Russians and the Iranians have finally come to the predicted impass over who will set the future of Syria, then Iran is now more desperate and alone than ever before. Forget the concept of turning to someone new this late in the game. The Dragon only wants one thing…. oil and or gas. It’s in the ground there no matter what government is left standing in Tehran.
Very Good Analysis! We shall see if the “Green Light” has been given to the IDF to destroy Hezbollah and Iranian forces and bases in Syria. In any case Iran will find itself over-extended and isolated from any Big Power support, in their attempts to take over Syria, as they have done in Lebanon. The IDF will act to prevent Iran from bringing in weapons and proxies to threaten Israel. Both President Trump and President Putin will not allow Iranian expansionism nor nuclear arms development. The Mullahs will find they cannot drag the Bear to protect them, from their suicidal adventures.
coldan:yes,the russians want to get rid if the mollahs,israel is welcome to do the job,trump will help to get rid of the cockroaches
more or less. but the ayatollah also believes in “mahdaviat” – a shiite apocalypse, where the world is destroyed in fire. spoiler: “the faithful” are supposed to lose.
so “the mother of all wars” is exactly what he means, and exactly what he’s hoping for. and he’s taunting exactly the right adversaries to get it.
the better solution is regime change in tehran.
Iran reminded Russia, “He who pays the piper calls the tune.” We can safely infer some of the hundreds of billions Iran was gifted by former president obama went to bribe Putin to accomplish tje reversal of his promise to Trump at their summit to cooperate in ending Iran’s involvement in the Syrian civil war.
i cannot understand how TRUMP AND BIBI TRUSTED PUTIN!!!!!! RUSSIA IS A DICTATORSHIP. PUTIN ALONE IS RUSSIA .IT WAS GREAT MISTAKE FOR TRUMP EVEN FOR BIBI GOING TO HAVE CONTACT WITH BIG LIAR PUTIN. THE ONLY THING PUTIN NEEDS IN SYRIA IS BIG HUMILIATION. FAILING TO ARM REALLY REBELS GROUPS TO DEFAT ASSAD AND RUSSIA ARMY WLL HAVE BIG CONSEQUENCES MAYBE BIBI SHOULD TO GO AWAY BECAUSE HE HAD LOST THE CAPACITY TO ANTICIPATE THE FUTURE OR BAD RUSSIAN INTENTIONS. NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER TRUST RUSSIANS. I SAW MANIPULATION FOR LONGTIME AGO. WHAT I CANNOT UNDERSTAND IS THE TRUMP S’BIG DESIRE TO MEET PUTIN THE LIAR!!!!!!!!!
it is a well known fact that juncker and tusk,trump are not liars
V. V. Putin already gets All the butt-licking he could possibly handle… Bibi, take note –
and save the next trip to Moscow for “falastynians” and ayatollahs (they are better at it, anyway…)
When Hillary tried the “Rest Button” policy with Putin that failed no one said a thing; just that it was worth the try. Now Trump engages Putin with talking about issues involving Syria and Iran and the Left calls him a traitor. Well what works for one, works for the other, for Hillary I mean. Through the entire cool war the US and Russia still talked on a regular basis and it was a good thing to prevent nuclear war. I believe that the Obama Admin. wants bad relations with Russia to hide Obama’s collusion with the Russians; remember the open mic comment Obama made to Russian President Dmitri Medvedev about flexibility after the election. If that isn’t collusion I don’t know the meaning of the word.
The Evil Putin and murderous genocidal Russian Bear that supports Iranian Genocide attempts against Israel will soon fall! Putin cannot be trusted he has shown him self not to keep his word and he only keeps supporting genocide against Israel through Abu Mazen, The butcher Assad, and Nazi Iran. No Holocaust Survivor, Russian Pogrom Survivor should never put their trust in Russia murderers.
G-d and Israel hating countries should realize that their own evil will soon
Be brought back on their own heads. I cant believe that Russia has become
The next Jew hating Nazi supporters. What can you expect from a nation without morality and a leader without a soul
I’m tired of the religious nuts and their proverbs, it’s enough already.
Putin is Putin, he won’t push Solemani until trump removes the sanctions, is that simple.
Time for IAF to destroy anything related to Iran or Hezy that moves inside Syria borders, every cargo plane, tanks, factory, c&c centers, every thing to create the Pain needed to remove them. If Russian advisors are collateral, too bad
You want to go to war with Russia? That will make the religious nuts happy – we will all get the armageddon they so desparately crave.
russia will not go to war on israel’s home turf just to save hezbollah. that would jeopardize their new mediterranean naval base, and greatly reduce the salability of their arms exports. and once iran pays their bills, the same goes for the mullahs.
russia’s strategic interests do not include fighting israel.
Whats the deal with Israel smuggling out 4 FSA terrorists and the and the terrorist front formally known as the white helmets why the need to smuggle them out under the cover of darkness aren’t they supposed to help people? hmmmm what could they have been doing to fear for there personal safety? This action by the Israelis really disappoints me I thought they were better that this!
Pootin’s a liar.
Lets say on Rosh Hashana Rabbi Nachman gets here and there is peace. If not we go in to Ukraine and there will be Peace.
Since the US news media has been attacking Trump non-stop for trying to work with Putin, maybe Debka should blame Rachel Maddow for Trump and Putin not delivering.
16. And lo, the hunter of the east hath snared the sultan’s turret in a noose of light.
17. Verily, like a whirlwind from the sun, yon Qariah of tidings doth fly on whirlng wheels and cast a folded missile, yea, to thy very door; two suns in cloud overflow thy table and thy grain shall be scorched in electric fire.
3. in the seventh month, the king of the west with great ships and many warriors shall go to the king of the north; and the king of the north shall move against the king of the south, and shall overflow, even to the very doors.
What Scripture are you quoting?
It was a misprint – should have read Obamia 3 and 13 – the Monkey Chronicles.
Ah, just enough time to bring up those S-400’s right up close to Israel’s border. Secular Israel cannot survive. Messianic Christians in Israel will survive with some others as the Lord Jesus has always saved a remnant of the Jews.
“Ah, just enough time to bring up those S-400’s right up close to Israel’s border. Secular Israel cannot survive. Messianic Christians in Israel will survive with some others as the Lord Jesus has always saved a remnant of the Jews.”
S-400’s are designed for defense, not offense.
The offensive missiles that could be fired into Israel from Syria, Lebanon or Gaza supplied by Iran would not know the difference between a Jewish Israeli or a Messianic Christian and reality dictates that a Jewish Rabbi referred to as Jesus has nothing to say about any of this since he was executed by Roman authorities 2000 years ago.
Well that could be true…but Israel’s fathers, were not trinitarian! The promises that God gave to Abraham and his family with David for a future nation and a kingship that will remain from one generation to another…were based on the Messiah being the son of God not God the son….
I guess all Christians need to assess whether their beliefs are based on an accurate understanding of God’s Plan or a twisted Church dogma that came in to being in the 3rd century AD long after Messiah’s apostles had disappeared off the scene. On this basis are Messianic Jews following Roman dogma or the Abrahamic Covenant? Christ returns to reeducate the rejuvenated people of remnant Israel to a new covenant based on Gen 12 & 2 Samuel 7 & Luke 2 not the Roman Creeds of so called Christianity.
” Christ returns to reeducate the rejuvenated people of remnant Israel to a new covenant based on Gen 12 & 2 Samuel 7 & Luke 2 not the Roman Creeds of so called Christianity.”
@Steve B NZ,
When the time comes, everyone will get to see who actually does it.
From the Debka article:
” 1. The Russian-IDF military coordination mechanism in Syria would continue to function to avert clashes.
2. The Russian military would not interfere with Israel military operations in Syria.”
That being the case, the Israeli military needs to take out the Iranians, Hezbollah and all of their Shiite mercenaries inside Syria where ever they are as soon as possible.
syria and lebanon are just a sideshow. the iranians pride themselves on having invented chess, so they are using their “pawns” to create a diversion.
a game of chess isn’t won on points scored, or yardage gained, but by “checkmate”.
Putin is such a moron. Only a complete fool takes maniacs like the Iranian regime and Assad as allies. Axis of evil.
he has achieved his primary goals: a mediterranean port for the russian fleet, lucrative arms exports, and control of a key choke point in the world’s oil supply.
he couldn’t have gotten this far any other way, and so far he has been careful not to step on any israeli or american toes. what obama and clinton accomplish by supporting the rebels?
yeah good luck witj that Israel..
you could nit attack av fly if mot you hade green light from russia and syria
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