An Israeli David’s Sling missile falls into Russian and Syrian hands
Two missiles of the David’s Sling cutting-edge air defense system were launched against Syrian SS-21 missiles on Monday, July 23. One landed in Syria; the other one self-destructed. Both missed their targets.
The IDF spokesman eventually came clean about what happened to the David Sling on its maiden combat mission – but only in dribs and drabs. The Syrian missiles targeted by the Israel interceptors did not actually cross into Israel. The built-in mechanisms of the two interceptors already in flight were ordered to self-destruct. Only one did. DEBKAfile’s military sources note that it is normal practice for an army, after a top-line weapon on its first operational mission falls on enemy soil intact – or even in pieces – to act fast for sterilizing the drop-site with heavy aerial or artillery bombardment. This enables a salvage team to move in and retrieve the weapon and is what an American or Russian army would have done.
IDF behaved differently for four reasons.
1. The David Sling’s launch team may not have discovered the location of the drop site.
- The Air Force only slowly grasped what had happened.
- By the time the second missile was known not to have self-destructed, it was too late to recover. It had almost certainly been carried off by Russian or Syrian helicopter.
- Israel decided that its recovery was not worth the risk of a major clash with Russia and Syria.
By now, the first David’s Sling missile to go into action is almost certainly being studied avidly by Russian and Syrian intelligence engineers. It is only a matter of time before its secrets reach the hands of Iran and Hizballah. This loss is therefore a gave setback for Israel’s air defense system and intelligence which is also shared by the US.
This two-stage missile, developed jointly by the Israeli defense contractor Rafael Advanced Defense Systems and the American Raytheon, is brand new, having entered service only two years ago to fill the gap in Israel’s multi-tiered missile defense arsenal between the Iron Dome for short-range operations and the Arrows which are designed to stop long-range ballistic missiles. David’s Sling is built to intercept a variety of missiles ranging between 40 and 400km, including cruise missiles at low speed. Consisting of a solid-fuel rocket motor booster, it has speeds of up to mach 7.5. or 5,754 mph, and is armed with topline radar and electro-optical systems. David’s Sling missiles are worth $1m apiece. This anti-missile missile was assigned by US and Israeli planners to replace the Patriot PAC-2 in the Israeli arsenal.
The most urgent task now is to ascertain what know-how the Russians and Syrians have been able to extract from the missile in their hands, before determining how David’s Sling should redesigned and any glitches revealed in its first performance corrected before it is restored to service.
Oopsy-Daisy!?
Israel can deal with High Tech Weapons Created or Lost and then Changed. Yet, Hamas in Gaza is running out of Palestinians Martyrs Birdbrains eager to blow themselves up for 72 Virgins, so Hamas is turning to actual Bird Bombs!
Iran as accused Israel of Stealing Clouds, Hezbollah has charged Israel with spying using Sweden Operatives, and now Hamas is accusing Israel of using Real Birds as Mossod Agents. Now Hamas is trying to use Birds as Suicide Attackers Birds are Smarter since Birds are less likely to want to commit suicide than Hamas supporters. Losing a David Missile to Syria still won’t help Hamas Incompetence in anyway when Bird Brains are Smarter!
Israel is passing sensitive information from USA to Russia. In a deceptive way, Israel jumped the fence to the Russian side. Now they can finally break the USA. Americans were duped
Chips used in military electronics have functions that cause the CHIP to Self-Destruct. So if a panel is opened without the proper procedures, the Self-Destruct function is activated.
This can also be a Trojan Horse which will “surprise” those who pick it up.
I suggest you to stop watching Mission impossible and Charlies’s Angels.
https://www.fastcompany.com/40532294/invasion-of-the-self-destructing-gadgets
Happy Nakba you ignorant knuckle dragger!
Correct, he’s wrong. I used to work on military electronics.
Correct, he’s wrong. I used to work on military electronics. He watched too many spy movies, mostly bad ones. ?
This Device Will Self-Destruct: Heat-Triggered Electronics Dissolve on Demand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tdj915k5gKg
Ooops. LOL!
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wishful thinking my good man…
Nothing about this makes any sense. Whatsoever…
I made this comment last night.
I am pretty sure that the Russians are aware of this self destruction mechanisms
God showing the Israeli that He is theirultimate protector.
If your are going to use the darn thing, then it will eventually be picked up by your enemy, won’t it?
Russia (Putin I mean) is going to have to decide if they are for the West or against the West – for Israel or working towards Israel’s destruction. Right now Putin is for Iran and for Syria and for a confrontational relationship.
Russian people…maybe it is time to overthrow Putin.
Time to reign in the slimy, sophist Zionist Jews. The Zionist Jews want conflict between Christians and Muslims. The Wahhabi roaches are their henchmen.
How many people are aware of the Mossad connection to the 9/11 attacks in the US? 5 dancing Israeli Mossad agents were caught in a van under the name “Urban Moving Systems” (a Mossad front organisation) full of explosives, celebrating and filming the tower attacks. Many witnesses saw these people. They were detained, but later released by the Neocon cabal. They all ran off to Israel. Why did Bush also fly out a bunch of Saudis out of America on the day of the attack? There is overwhelming evidence that the Saudis and Israelis conspired to bring about 9/11 in America with involvement of insider groups in America, to drag the US into the Middle East, to fight their battles.
These dirty dogs are the big terrorists, not Russia, Iran or Islam.
The synagogue of Satan will burn, its time is coming.
Paranoid Schizophrienic or Muslim? Probably both.
Actually he presented a more logic version of the oficial story. No man living in caves could have done that. We all know he tells the truth. 911 was a USA+Israel+KSA false flag. Americans will love Hitler after they find out that they are in the same position as the Germans were in 1930’s when Hitler was elected to remove the jewish parasites from stealing the country. Time will prove this, and the clock is ticking…
I very much enjoy your pain. May it long continue.
The article speculates that parts of one or both missiles have been recovered. That’s a groundless claim since there are no facts to support it. The rest of the article is follow-on speculation based on the first groundless assumption. DEBKA is losing me due to its too frequent speculation. It is obvious that DEBKA has a conflict with the IDF and policy makers. But, you don’t build credibility for your criticism when you speculate. Rather, you make yourself irrelevant. At least Ynet writes about facts and even its opinion pieces are fact based.
FOWar: the contrails do show two distinctive proprietary explosions.
There is also the possibility that this was fired and allowed to land on purpose. Perhaps this missile has systems that we want the Russians to copy and use so that we will have the ability to destroy it if necessary. The chances are that they already have the information about this entire program from spies who are paid a lot of money to infiltrate and get it. We spy on them and they spy on us.
It did land on purpose . It is also gave everyone , even without looking , the view on Raytheon garbage , that is produced , under agreement with Israel . The shot down Suchoi in answer of their impotence , and this one was illegal act , of cross over war act . It was already written , that Israeli defense systems are open like a book , and could be seen from simulators even games .Stop playing video games Americanized Israelis. One of this day that game you all playing will not end in your favor .
Well to date, your friends haven’t been able to answer ANY of Israel’s actions in any meaningful way at all. That’s the bare fact of the matter. All the enemy can do and has done (like you) is talk BIG. It should be obvious, even to someone who does not like Israel, that if the enemy was to inflict or even appear to be getting ready to do harm – all hell will break loose. As betting person, I would not be putting any money on your friends getting anything but another, “victorious” and thoroughly deserved thrashing.
I agree, Jay. Although not perfect, the Israelis are the best in the world at misinformation ops and it’s very plausible that they floated a decoy into Syria to throw off Russia, Iran and Hizballah. I find it highly suspect that they (Israel) didn’t know exactly where the subject missile went down and didn’t make an effort to destroy it.
Yes Tim I agree with you. Thanks for the post. May HaShem continue to bless you and your family and friends always. Shalom.
lol ! I am just waiting to read Rafael’s comment. I wish if i could see his face expressions. LOL
what a flippen disaster- and I am referring to debka’s english writing style which is now worse than mine. debka you confuse me. and who knows what the hell happened- if this great new missile was not destroyed then netanyahu is a bigger fool than i thought. and yes maybe there is a trojan horse inside. we will never know. the russians are gloating over this missile let me tell you, with a couple of fine vodkas to go down with it.
it is written all over their faces? perhaps they shot two specially fueled missiles just to fool your computers and then disrupted the signal to destruct your anti missiles. How they love their big radio’s…
Well, no time to waste in destroying the enemy before they can get to use whatever information they have gleaned.
Good job. Its called ‘fishing’ by US and Israeli military experts. This was an intentional ploy to fool the enemy. Only the towelheads will fall for it…smh
Huge difference between talking and doing. Israeli officials have been talking big lately only to be faced with one set back after another. With Gaza’s bad news on one side, Russian cohersion on another, and now this. You just hope that’s not the state of readiness for engagement!! They will sting you!! They’ve done it before and they can do it again! Israelis lately have been like a bell on a mule’s ass! Too much talk. Tighten your seals guys, this is no joke! No room for oops. Few years back the Iranians grabbed a US drone, before that the Russians grabbed a stealth fighter in Serbia, then a next gen helicopter in Pakistan. Too careless!
Nabi Yunis: Do you mean setbacks like Israeli agents going into Iran with a team that, against all odds, takes away a treasure trove of paper and digital evidence of how Iran lies to the world about their nuclear programs …as the EU, UN and Obama gave them the green light to destroy the world and to on with continue the conquest?
I do agree with you that Israel is not tough enough at times with Islamic terrorists who will never be anything better than jihadist insane murderers.
but it did not help russia or iranian anyways !!!! you see the blow they take in syria . you see the russian failure to stop american and allies strikes in syria!!!!!!
Ok, now our Great Ayatollah knows about the probability of a hit from Israeli David’s Shlong missile: 0 out of 2 shots, pretty impressive this is!
This is David’s Shlong, very serious flying dildo, ha ha ha!
Ayatollah is working on new weapon ‘‘Goliath’s beard’
o for fuck sake now russia can build a real air defence system
yeah the S400 are useless, nobody wants to buy it, tell that to the americans
On a lighter note…who designed this in the shape of a bent pen*s tip? Of course it missed. I would be unlucky and keep missing, if mine was bent too….smh
The Russians have a variety of jamming devices inside Syria. Is it possible they were able to prevent the self-destruct mechanism from working properly?
sounds like a set-up to me. drop the David Sling on purpose….it will have inferior technology…duping enemy into thinking they have the real thing
Say that again! Syrian Intelligence Engineers. The Guys who make Barrel bombs full of Pneumonia??
Or the Missile did explode. Where are your sources, like pictures of Russians with Helicopters picking up the missile. This is pure Speculation. Or the Missile exploded but Israel only got confirmation from the one missile. Waiting for Facts instead of fiction.
The system which had cost billions miserably failed. Tochka U is a pretty primitive russian rocket about 40 years old designed to deliver tactical nuclear device. Yes this time it didn’t reach Israeli territory, yes it was equipped with conventional warhead, but the next time it could reach and could carry iranian warhead of 15Kt. Had been useless interceptor acquired by Russians or ukrainians doesn’t matter. Failure of the system could be caused by any of the components of the system- target identification and tracking system, firing control mechanism, interceptor flight control and trajectory correction system, failure of the interceptor own seeker or all of them together.
interesting, but stupid. the ss-21 did not land in israel, so it really doesn’t matter what kind of warhead it carried.
That missile has hit the ground with huge speed. Just small pieces were left. Good luck to russkies reverse-engineering it.
Really, impact with the ground at 7M leave only very small pieces of glass, fiber and metal. In this case, reverse engineering is not a good idea. So Israel can be calm.
Another IDF-Fail, just as letting the Gazans steal equipment some days before.
I hope this rocket has some volatile software storage that deletes itself if mission is aborted,
or the missile gets into enemy hands.
Such can be realized using SRAM-Memory only and having a bootloader to download
the operating system, application system and mission data from a secured server just before
launch.
If the rocket is not operative anymore, power supply to the computers shall be interrupted thus deleting
operating system and mission data.
But I am sure, that such advanced technologies are NOT used, as good engineers dont get jobs in military indistries when they want to do aliyah….
The stolen equipment will be taken to Hamass HQ – then Israel will have the exact location of Hamassholes.
Bye, Bye Hamass!
HAHAH
well done idf. expect iranian replica in a couple of months.
An iranian replica of an American and Israeli design with backdoors that Israel and US can exploit.
and made of papier-mâché, just like the aircraft carrier they “copied”.
http://amp.timeinc.net/time/34963/iran-aircraft-carrier
Something just does not add up here.Then what did bring down the Syrian Jet?
2 patriots. worth far more than an old su-24.
Just like the david ding which is worth $1m each. Why fire at an old SS21 before you can determine its trajectory??? Must be just a (expensive) sting.
As far as we know almost half of Israelites came from Russia so no matter what Israel invent Russia will have a knowhow and no need for scavenging for fallen missile.
Mistakes happen in all Conflicts but seldom last long since Military Technology Innovations Changes so quickly and Nations like Iran can seldom take Advantage over the Long Term. Russia can adjust accordingly but Israel Military Techno Complex Innovations as well as US Pentagon Programs are Years Ahead of other in the World. It is a small concern for the short term but the Long tern always favors Israel!
In the Long term, 1,400 years, Arabs/Muslims will continue killing Arabs/Muslims.
If they found and recovered something of it, they first thing need to fix the bugs!
I believe these kind of missiles are developed taking into account something may happen and can fall in enemy’s hands. if not the case the whole 30B NIS is worthless
Israel’s next missile system should be named “72 Virgins”. Maybe after that their enemies will finally get what happens to them when you mess with Israel!
Unlike David’s sling these missed. Maybe they could rename it Saul’s sling. Shouldn’t you have an aircraft with a bomb or missile ready to destroy something like this to keep it out of enemy hands?
There is no doubt in Israel’s capabilities on all fronts. But it seems when a screw up happens it is of a huge impact and could lead to serious results. It is upsetting when a bunch of kids use burning kites to frustrate a government with a formidable military. Makes you feel as if they are helpless in retaliating to a bunch of hooligans. Add to it the west’s hypocricy and the image abroad, thus you lose the political standing. All i’m saying for the Israelis unfortunately, one Oh Crap is worth 100 good jobs. Such is the nasty political climate out there. I cringe to give the bastards even one Oh Crap!!!
And by the way the article said that the IDF realized the Syrian missle was not going to cross so the order came to destroy David’s sling!!! Why?? Are we worried about the rules? Should we?! They brake them every minute!! Let it do its thing and then worry about who’s on first!! Who gives a damn!! The primary objective not to get compromised or lose any of our kids. Screw all the rest.
Imagine Russia’s surprise when they remove the access door to get to the electronics and in big letters it is stamped:
Made in China
hahaha..what a bounch of clowns IDF is
The IDF, a “bounch” of clowns 350 million Arabs can’t defeat – driving your prophet of Satan who you call Mooohamed into fits of rage.
Happy Nakba!
The brain defective Jew-haters on this site will always find a reason to gloat:
that’s the Reason they ARE brain-defective ! The creatures are incapable of coherent thought –
that the Israeli formidable technological know-how has anticipated and protected any advanced,
innovative weaponry from accidental malfunction or failure, such as this – (even if it did take place ?!)
What I IDF about this report is that it was posted on the 24th and 3 days later no other news site has mentioned it. I presumed that this is a huge embarrassment and it would make big splash headlines.
If the un-self-destucted missile was doing Mach 7.5 when it missed its target, then maybe it had decelerated to Mach 4 or so when it impacted terrain. That won’t leave a lot for analysis. It’s not a good thing, but it’s a risk with every drone, missile, and aircraft.