Despite Erdogan’s bravado, his Syrian offensive is squeezed in a US-Russian hug

US-Russian coordination for holding back Turkey’s operation against Syria’s Kurds goes forward smoothly amid a flurry of talks. On Tuesday, Oct. 15, the US secretary of state held talks with his Russian counterpart, as did the two defense chiefs. That night, Turkish President Recep Erdogan held phone conversations with both US President Donald Trump and Russia’s Vladimir Putin.
Putin invited him to visit Moscow before the end of October, while Trump informed him that Vice President Mike Pence and Secretary Mike Pompeo would be arriving in Ankara on Thursday, Oct. 17. They would be coming with national security adviser Robert O’Brien and special Syrian envoy James Jeffrey. Erdogan was quoted as refusing to receive the Vice President, but the highly volatile Turkish leader may have backtracked on this snub.

Very little was disclosed about the content of this burst of high wire parleys. DEBKAfile’s sources have learned that Putin warned Erdogan that if the Turkish army attacked the Syrian forces which arrived to defend Kurdish districts against a Turkish onslaught, the Russian air force would intervene.  

Trump is believed to have focused his warning against a Turkish assault on the key SDF-held town of Kobani and its environs. He demanded a pledge from Erdogan to stop his forces and allied Syrian militias from entering this town and to halt attempts to seize control of the strategic M4 highway. The Turkish leader demanded as a quid pro quo that the US president guarantee that the Syrian forces not far from Kobani won’t enter the town. However, since Moscow holds the whip hand over the Syria army, it was necessary for the American and Russian foreign and defense ministers to confer on this. For now, the SDF retains control of the town, shielded by Russian special forces.
Erdogan finds his troop movements increasingly constricted by the tough dictates coming at him from Washington and Moscow. They are operating in concert in a still unpredictable, inflammable situation.

The coming DEBKA Weekly (for subscribers) out on Friday, Oct. 16 explores the extraordinary US-Russian teamwork ongoing over Erdogan’s Syria enterprise and its epic impact on the regional balance of power. To subscribe, click here.

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59 thoughts on “Despite Erdogan’s bravado, his Syrian offensive is squeezed in a US-Russian hug

  • Oct 16, 2019 @ 18:43 at 18:43
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    Its good to see the Russian and American administrations working together for a change. It would be nice to hear what Debka thinks Turkey is after, extra territory for Turky or a permanent buffer? Or just as Erdogan said getting rid of the PKK and returning the refugees?

    • Oct 16, 2019 @ 19:24 at 19:24
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      Tommyski, No Fake News to post from Veterans Today or Mint Media? slow day in the Russian Fake News Department?

      • Oct 16, 2019 @ 19:50 at 19:50
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        Day sad at Mother Russia 16th oktyabr prominent Potemkin dies balshoiest general all times.

      • Oct 16, 2019 @ 22:06 at 22:06
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        Don’t worry Jim Carrol… Israel’s time is prepared… Jacobs troubles… Might be also Jim Carrol’s troubles… In due time of course.

        • Oct 16, 2019 @ 22:33 at 22:33
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          Goyim my only trouble is the Nasty Infection I got from laying with your Sharmouta Mother.

          • Oct 17, 2019 @ 21:44 at 21:44
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            Jim Carrol makes me LAUGH. :-}

            So Jim Carrol AKBAR!

        • Oct 17, 2019 @ 21:21 at 21:21
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          @goyim:be carfeul,when breivik comes out of jail,his army will wipe out, you and the same type of insects

      • Oct 17, 2019 @ 16:28 at 16:28
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        Please be quiet while the adults are talking?

    • Oct 17, 2019 @ 17:32 at 17:32
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      Good to see the coordination.

    • Oct 17, 2019 @ 20:57 at 20:57
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      yahudiler dünyanın en kalleş alçaklarıdır

      • Oct 20, 2019 @ 22:55 at 22:55
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        Yahudilere kurban ol!
        En alcak olan seningibi turk donmeleridir..

        • Oct 22, 2019 @ 14:22 at 14:22
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          Yahudiler eşittir 💰.

  • Oct 16, 2019 @ 19:27 at 19:27
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    It’s very obvious that Russians have ALL the power and are holding ALL the cards in this situation.

  • Oct 16, 2019 @ 19:31 at 19:31
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    Not much to say by the orange carrot after he delivered the Kurds in the hands of Syria and Russia.

    Mother Russia welcomes such collaboration. (obedience)

    • Oct 16, 2019 @ 20:36 at 20:36
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      YOU REFERRING TO DOUBLE-AGENT DONNIE?

      • Oct 17, 2019 @ 23:32 at 23:32
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        now it is different – the 4D chess game is difficult for plebs to comprehend

  • Oct 16, 2019 @ 19:44 at 19:44
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    Many think the Mideast Nations come from Abraham Families Squabbles Among Sons, Brothers, Sisters & Daughters from the 3 Mansions of Moses, Jesus & Mohammed Messengers in 3 Separate Centuries. Yet, the Reality is the Mideast Nations are a Perfect Mix of 2 Interconnected Stars, Crosses & Partial Moons between aspects of former Greek Pagans Dionysus & Apollo Gods Characteristics of Irrational Frenzy Global Controlled by Tribal Reasons with Individuals Self-Reflections. The True Saviors of the Future are to be Leaders whose own Weaknesses will be the Willingness to Trust People.

    • Oct 16, 2019 @ 19:58 at 19:58
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      Lincoln,
      You’re a big fan of baseless fairy tales?

      • Oct 16, 2019 @ 20:44 at 20:44
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        TrumpProphet… Thank you for the Compliment, if there were No Dreams or Dreamers how could anyone Dream Up Mysteries to Overcome Mountains of Hate to be Tore Down & if it’s Too High or Long then Dreamers Will Find Ways to Go Around with Respect even if there were No Dreams!

  • Oct 16, 2019 @ 20:15 at 20:15
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    Trump and Putin are great buddies,e-DOG-an could not sniff that out like a stupid dog, barking aimlessly,my advice, put your tail between your legs and go home,….. how dare you think you can also seat on the far north

    • Oct 16, 2019 @ 21:20 at 21:20
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      I like that tom. Hopefully many in the US military industrial complex will soon have to find real jobs.

      • Oct 16, 2019 @ 21:22 at 21:22
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        Ron Paul, and to a limited extent Trump are the main voices of reason in this context. Peace and prosperity to all.

        • Oct 16, 2019 @ 21:35 at 21:35
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          I have always liked Ron Paul its would be good if Tulsi Gabbard and Ron Paul to run as a team and get elected. In the short term having Tulsi Gabbard as Trumps running mate would go a long way to create a unity government and to moderate some of his tendencies. She is a smart lady and very sensible who is antiwar and pro American unlike most of the other Democrats. Im not sure if it would ever be allowed to have a Republican and Democrat run together but if they did i suspect that they would clean house.

          • Oct 16, 2019 @ 22:34 at 22:34
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            Figures you’d like too creepy LYING LOSERS…Is that who Putin supports this time?

        • Oct 17, 2019 @ 21:49 at 21:49
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          MoRON Paul and his bad rug wearing son Randy are a pair of dummies.

    • Oct 16, 2019 @ 23:29 at 23:29
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      I BLAME DONALD FOR BEING A DISHONEST SNAKE OIL SALESMAN THAT SELLS TO DESPERATE LOSERS LIKE YOU.
      HOW’S THAT WALL GOING YOU KNOW THE ONE MEXICO IS PAYING FOR?
      HOW’S THE GREATEST HEALTH-CARE EVER COMING…
      I HAVE A BRIDGE TO SELL YOU LOSER…

      • Oct 16, 2019 @ 23:53 at 23:53
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        You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

        You whine about Trump yet fail to even mention Bibi or Israel or your Tribes own rich history in such matters. What of Pelosi, Nader, Gary Cohn, Lloyd Blankfein, and David Solomon just to name a few

      • Oct 17, 2019 @ 18:38 at 18:38
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        Jim, I agree with you on this. Donald Trump was never a neo-con and never supported the idea of endless wars and he was against the Iranian agreement simply because Obama was for it. This is why Putin wanted him in instead of the neocon Hilary, who still believed in an America controlled Middle East. The recognition of Jerusalem as the capital moved all other countries to the Russian camp. I really do not know what the Russians had on him but it is obvious that they do more than laundering money. How long will it be that those Isis soldiers move into Jordan along the Israeli border.

  • Oct 17, 2019 @ 0:29 at 0:29
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    Samantha you are a Rabid Anti-semitic member of the Tribe of SHARMOUTAS. I suggest you start treatment for your Syphilis as soon as possible and inform the many thousands you have infected.

    • Oct 17, 2019 @ 0:47 at 0:47
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      @Samantha 🐞
      Pulling out the antisemitic Trope means you scored a direct hit and it’s to dangerous a topic to debate. Its a trick that is used to try and shutdown debate on topics that they know they will lose. Its all narrative control ✡ so dont be affected but rather smile and know that you were correct 🙂

      • Oct 17, 2019 @ 0:54 at 0:54
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        Gideon you write as if you are INFECTED!

  • Oct 17, 2019 @ 2:43 at 2:43
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    The Sharmutah Tribe pretends to be interested in lovemaking, but really only engaged in spreading disease

  • Oct 17, 2019 @ 3:57 at 3:57
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    Wax Museum….Pence & Popeye are going to Turkey to try & clean up the WH corrupt idiot’s MESS !

  • Oct 17, 2019 @ 7:44 at 7:44
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    I think the USA helped the Kurds get rid of Isis, Isis is more of a threat to the Kurds than to the USA. We were there too long. Time to bring the troops back home.

  • Oct 17, 2019 @ 13:34 at 13:34
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    NATO member Turkey is almost an Islamist dictatorship. It should not be an acceptable criteria for a member country to hold to sharia laws of antisemitic Islamist supremacy and conquest. If the other members do not give Turkey the boot, then they should be held responsible along with Turkey for killing Kurds and other minorities and paving the way for another genocide carried out by Turkey in historic proportions in the region.

  • Oct 17, 2019 @ 16:40 at 16:40
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    u.s is history in the Mid.E.

    • Oct 17, 2019 @ 17:02 at 17:02
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      I agree it looks like we are accelerating the pull out. Ive got a few friends who are deployed and they are looking forward to heading home. They have been told that they need to be ready to move at short notice. The guys are eager for the order to come through and expect to be back State side by Christmas.

      • Oct 19, 2019 @ 14:45 at 14:45
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        No sorry they are headed to Saudi land to prop up Bonespur’s friend the journalist killer. Bonespur would kill a few of them if he thought he could get away with it too.

  • Oct 17, 2019 @ 18:04 at 18:04
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    A good article.

  • Oct 17, 2019 @ 18:08 at 18:08
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    Another day in America;

    President TRUMP durng press conference wtih the President of Italy;
    !! Wait !!

    US and Italian ties go back to Ancient Rome!

    Yes! Yes! Yes!

    USA! USA!! USA!!! USA!!!!

  • Oct 17, 2019 @ 18:40 at 18:40
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    Good to see Russia, Turkey, & Syria back into Nation Building in the Mideast! An Economic Burden that will Increase over Time & Change them Within as well!

    • Oct 17, 2019 @ 20:04 at 20:04
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      Cuba is receiving ‘almost’ free shipments of oil from Venezuela due to thew ‘US SANCTIONS’ – LOL!

      Since Venezuela is unable to sell its oil efficiently and their storage capacity exhausted it is more reasonable to give away crude to partners like Cuba as the alternative would mean shutting down some or a lot of their functioning oil wells.

      Laughing so lout at US SANCTIONS!!!

      Cuba will proceed to restock their own storage capacity and then sell off surplus on the open market. Limited ‘open market’ but functioning well enough to serve their purpose.

      Trump Sanctions once again turn into laughter around the globe.

  • Oct 17, 2019 @ 19:54 at 19:54
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    Trump said Wednesday that the “United States and Italy are bound together by a shared cultural and political heritage dating back thousands of years to Ancient Rome.”

    • Oct 17, 2019 @ 20:17 at 20:17
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      Trump did try to attach his family to UK monarchs few months ago … did not work. Maybe he figured becoming Italian is the next venture worth exploring?! He does have a part of his family attached to Jewery as New Orthodox Jews … whatever brings in profit brother!!

    • Oct 17, 2019 @ 20:51 at 20:51
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      Well that is true as it would be for both Greece and the UK. All Western Empires have affected the development of the US and these 3 are most noticeable. Rome elite religion was the Mithraism and we can still see its influence on Christianity today. Because the liberal fake news hates Trump they will always try to find something to spin and have a issue with.

  • Oct 17, 2019 @ 21:26 at 21:26
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    Rednacke marriage with immigrant from Yugoslavia trying to be English Monarchy and Roman Caesars. He did get into Jewery but that is easy + $$ gets you in.

  • Oct 17, 2019 @ 22:20 at 22:20
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    Trump announces sanctions ITALIAN TRANSLATORS!!!

    Italian Translators Need o Translate That Trump Is A Descendant Of Cesar Family!!!!

    Trump did not announce what kind of Sanction will be given to Italian Translators YET!

  • Oct 20, 2019 @ 17:42 at 17:42
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    TERRORİST LİST: ISİS PKK EL KAİDE YPG PYD

    MOSSAD CİA TERRORİST ORGANİZATİON: ISİS EL KAİDE PKK YPG PYD

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