Hangars go up in Israel for hundreds of US F-35s, says another unfriendly Russian Defense Dept “leak”

Unfriendly leaks relating to Israel, the IDF, its weapons and interaction with the US come from Russian defense department “sources” every few days, causing unease in Jerusalem and the IDF high command. Of late, these anonymous “revelations” have become more hostile with attempts to denigrate the IDF’s image and capabilities.

On Sunday, Nov. 10, Russian military sites claimed that the US Air Force is planning to deploy its F-35 stealth planes in Israel and is building hundreds of hangars which will provide 252,000 sq. m. of space for hundreds of those warplanes. They will be in position to counter the Russian military presence “in Iran and Syria.”

A day earlier, on Saturday, those Russian outlets carried an extensive account of how its [DEBKAfile: elderly] medium-range Tochka tactical missile (codenamed in the West SS-21-Scarab) overpowered Israel’s intermediate air defense David’s Sling’s electronic and guidance systems. According to this account, Tochka overrode the Israeli missile’s self-destruct order when it fell into Syrian military hands and Russian engineers were able to explore and dissect its features.

This story was the sequel to the first account of the incident appearing on those same Russian military sites on Wednesday, Nov. 6, when Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov arrived in Israel for quiet talks with Israeli officials on issues relating to Iran’s nuclear program and Syria.
DEBKAfile’s military sources reiterate that the incident referred to occurred on June 23, 2018 when two IDF David’s Sling missiles were launched at – and missed – Syrian SS-21 missiles over Israel’s Sea of Galilee. Both fell inside Syrian territory. One self-destructed; the second did not. Military sources in Moscow now claim this was due to superior Russian electronic capabilities.

The Ryabkov visit was preceded by an earlier “disclosure” by “Russian army sources,” according to which the joint Russian Navy and Aerospace exercise conducted recently was said to include “cruise missile and heavy artillery fire drills in the eastern Mediterranean opposite the Israeli coast.”

Our sources note that the story did not name the vessel or which part of the Israeli coastline was in range, only that the incident occurred outside Israel’s territorial waters and it had come closer than ever before to Israel’s shores.

So who is responsible for this stream of niggling accounts – which continued unabated even during friendly talks in Jerusalem by a high-ranking Kremlin official? They appear to come from circles in the Russian Defense Ministry, not all of whom approve of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s friendly ties with Israel.

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77 thoughts on “Hangars go up in Israel for hundreds of US F-35s, says another unfriendly Russian Defense Dept “leak”

  • Nov 11, 2019 @ 11:20 at 11:20
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    From the Debka article:

    “On Sunday, Nov. 10, Russian military sites claimed that the US Air Force is planning to deploy its F-35 stealth planes in Israel and is building hundreds of hangars which will provide 252,000 sq. m. of space for hundreds of those warplanes. ”

    The Soviets (oops…………………I meant the Russians), in the tradition of the Radio Moscow propaganda shortwave radio station during the 1960’s, are now all upset about the F-35’s not being too vulnerable to the S-300’s and S-400’s they deployed in Syria and Iran.

    • Nov 13, 2019 @ 2:09 at 2:09
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      I’d like to take this opportunity to disabuse you of your misinformation, if you don’t want to read the actual reports, just go ahead and read Wikipedia. S400 complex electronic environment will anticipate the f-35 as well as the F-22 and B2. But don’t take my word for it read the reports unless you just don’t have the time

      • Nov 13, 2019 @ 18:51 at 18:51
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        Unlikely that S500 can even detect the F35 precisely for a missile strike. Even the best systems cannot pinpoint exactly enough to guide a missile.

  • Nov 11, 2019 @ 12:10 at 12:10
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    believing the Russians are friends is absolute stupidity

    • Nov 11, 2019 @ 16:54 at 16:54
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      USA is Israeli friends –get real Israel is a proxy for Americans running away from USA . that is why USA occupied Negev and built there nuclear facilities , that could be seen from space. Negev became as well Israeli military aero bases , and everyone os so happy getting rad 5 in there.

      • Nov 11, 2019 @ 17:45 at 17:45
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        Solomeo… Free Nations where the People are part of the Rule of Law Protects & Secures Free Global World & that is why America & Israel that have Rules of Law have in common. Prevents the Thieves Elites of Other Nations with One Supreme Leader, One Party Rule & Human Rights Crimes that Do Not Trust Freedom of Equality!

      • Nov 12, 2019 @ 8:17 at 8:17
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        You are a raving lunatic. Good job!

    • Nov 12, 2019 @ 0:36 at 0:36
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      from a leaker?? this is why pelosie was mad when Trump didn’t tell them over his go for killing isis leader..if they’d known who knows how it would’ve turned out..hillary has the contacts with russia it sounds like when she states Gabbart is a russian agent..hmmmmm how did she know?

  • Nov 11, 2019 @ 12:55 at 12:55
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    PUTIN IS A DOUBLE-CROSSING CON LIKE DON THE CON. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS PUTIN IS DEVIOUS WITH A PLAN AND A GOAL.

    • Nov 11, 2019 @ 15:59 at 15:59
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      So, Jim, does anonymity gives you a license to slander like a teenager who has never been held accountable by anyone for his words?

      • Nov 11, 2019 @ 19:26 at 19:26
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        ‘ANONYMITY’? DO YO SEE MY NAME UP THERE, MORON?

        • Nov 12, 2019 @ 6:50 at 6:50
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          Durrrr uuuhhhhh oh yeah oops, time to put the whiskey down!

    • Nov 11, 2019 @ 17:05 at 17:05
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      @Jim… I agree, It is good to question Information & Administration Policies finding out what is happening. Something is obviously up. Having Israeli Pilots Train ASAP on F-35 is essential & the more the better! IDF Makes Sense! POTUS under Impeachment for his behavior makes a tumultuous time as well.

  • Nov 11, 2019 @ 13:03 at 13:03
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    The Russians need to sell as many of their weapons to terror states as they can to prop up their sinking economy. So they must denigrate others in comparison to theirs. Russia is not to be trusted. They will get into bed with whomever gives them the best offer. They have no real allies because they have no real friends who trust them – they thrive on the fear others have of their crazy behavior in the region – crazy support of pariahs and terrorists.

    • Nov 12, 2019 @ 6:54 at 6:54
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      Comrade, I come and keel you! But first I need loan so I can afford plane ticket, please tell comrade Trumpski no for sanctions!

  • Nov 11, 2019 @ 13:49 at 13:49
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    Russian want to explore the armed industries

  • Nov 11, 2019 @ 14:08 at 14:08
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    Neither Russians nor Israelis have “friends”. Long time ago Churchill have said that “Countries do not have friends, countries have interests only”. This is exactly the case here.

    • Nov 11, 2019 @ 17:06 at 17:06
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      Learn your History, it was Palmerston in 1856 who said’ Britain has no permanent friends and on eternal enemies, but our highest duty is to protect her permanent interests” Palmerston was also was saying that” …Britain is the bulwark of the freedom standing against the Empire of Darkness of the Tsar Nicholas the I” I strongly suspect that hacks who had composed Reagan utterances, plagiarized Palmerston slightly changing “The Empire of Darkness” into “Evil Empire” . Otherwise you are correct there’re no friends in business and politics only mutual interests, it’s pretty much a common sense, but was widely publicized by Machiavelli 600 hundreds years ago

      • Nov 12, 2019 @ 1:03 at 1:03
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        @ZviTicker… The Moral Superiority of Freedom America on Britain & Israel Law Foundations will Prevail over Totalitarian Nations. Whose own People over Long Term will Not Trust them in the end. Iran Shiaa Law Beliefs have never been “Dominant Anywhere in the World Proving its own Infirmity Inferiority! Just ask anyone seeks “Freedom Wishes”? Will You Choose America, England & Israel or China, Russia & Iran?

        • Nov 12, 2019 @ 1:09 at 1:09
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          @GST001 you make a hard case to refute even being a billionaire in russia, china and iran can be bankrupted, imprison and executed by putin, jingping or khamenei why live there when families are not protected? Free people will always fight better than people under regimes as provided slaves.

      • Nov 12, 2019 @ 7:37 at 7:37
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        ZVI,

        Reagan didn’t plagiarize squat. He spoke of “the axis of Evil” … meaning Iran, N. Korea & the USSR. Nice try.

  • Nov 11, 2019 @ 14:30 at 14:30
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    It is hard to believe that the US would station hundreds of F-35’s in Israel. It would make sense only if the US is planning a major regional war in the near future. It might also indicate that the US is planning a complete withdrawal from Turkey

  • Nov 11, 2019 @ 14:33 at 14:33
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    It is only true when Putin denies it.
    There are no good relations with Israel. Putin can never be trusted. Look how he treated their former ally Ukraine.
    He honors no deals.

  • Nov 11, 2019 @ 15:20 at 15:20
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    What a JOKE OF NEWS!!!

    Hundreds of Hangars for Hundreds of airplanes huh???!!!

    US Army will have just over 400 F35s at their peak and Israel 80 units. This article claims that Israel will have at the very least over half of US Army F35s on Israel soil in Israeli Hangars.

    SH*T NEWS DEBKA!!! SH*T NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Nov 11, 2019 @ 16:05 at 16:05
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      Jim, I am beginning to believe you are a reprobate teenager.

      • Nov 11, 2019 @ 19:28 at 19:28
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        JAMES, THAT WASN’T ME…..

        • Nov 11, 2019 @ 19:54 at 19:54
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          you are a goar humping sharmuta and everyone knows it. now go do your stinky mother.

          • Nov 11, 2019 @ 20:27 at 20:27
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            YOSEF = CHILD OF SHARMOUTA AND HER FAVORITE PIG.

          • Nov 11, 2019 @ 22:41 at 22:41
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            Hey! NO FIGHTING IN THE WAR ROOM!

    • Nov 11, 2019 @ 17:20 at 17:20
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      @Jim… What better place is the most reliable to Train IDF & USAF Pilots & Protect The Latest Jet Technology the Mideast than Israel? Air Superiority has been essential in every conflict there past, present & future!

      • Nov 11, 2019 @ 19:26 at 19:26
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        Chinese and Russians already have all the needed technology in their hands. There is nothing to protect. Canada, Turkey and Italy made sure of that.

        GST001 SUCK IT!!

        • Nov 11, 2019 @ 23:59 at 23:59
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          @Good… then the Russians & Chinese can remain safe that way and won’t mind the F-35’s in Israel at all! Why are you angry & upset about it when you lost control over it? LOL!

    • Nov 11, 2019 @ 18:00 at 18:00
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      The article doesn’t claim that at all. The article claims that Russian sources are making the claim that that’s so. I sincerely hope you’re going to get help for your reading comprehension disabilities Jim!

    • Nov 11, 2019 @ 19:27 at 19:27
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      You are a sharmuta Jim Carrol and you love your mothers stinky crotch!!!

  • Nov 11, 2019 @ 15:31 at 15:31
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    Most likely, this is the Latter day King of the South vs King of the North (Dan 11) scenario in development.

    • Nov 12, 2019 @ 15:54 at 15:54
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      if you’re so certain you know how this wil turn out, why do you bother reading the news? or more importantly, why do you bother spamming this site? are you trying to show how smart you are? (it isn’t working, by the way.)

  • Nov 11, 2019 @ 15:58 at 15:58
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    The number of U.S. F-35 based in Israel (if any) is unimportant. The message to the ayatollahs is what counts: in case of open hostilities (and that includes with the fat rat Nasrallah), the IDF will act
    in close cooperation with the U.S. air force !

    • Nov 12, 2019 @ 2:43 at 2:43
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      SORRY YOSEF ISRAEL HAS A LONG STANDING POLICY, AFTER 1948 JEWS WILL NOT HAVE ANYONE FOREIGN SOLDIER FIGHTING IN ISRAEL. THERE IS ONE RADAR STATION IN THE DESERT A USAF EARLY WARNING FOR INCOMING ICBMS. 170 US SOLDIERS ARE THERE . CONSIDER SPARTA S SOLDIERS ONE IDF GROUND TROOP IS = TO 5 ARAB SOLDIERS

    • Nov 12, 2019 @ 16:04 at 16:04
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      why? iran doesn’t have much of an air force, just mostly old junk like f-4s, and a few f-14s, which wouldn’t be airworthy in most other countries. their chances of surviving a dogfight against iaf f-16s is less than zero.

      if israel is building a base for the usaf, which is far from certain considering the source, it’ll be for uncle sam’s benefit, not israel’s. moving out of the gulf states isn’t so simple for complex systems like the f-35.

  • Nov 11, 2019 @ 17:13 at 17:13
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    Yosef… Good point, you may enjoy this Interview on Newt Gingrich New Book on Trump vs China: America’s Greatest Challenge, & talks about a China, Russia, & Iran Coalition Alliance could be formidable & American Military & Space Force going through Big Changes! https://www.c-span.org/video/?465505-1/after-words-newt-gingrich

    • Nov 11, 2019 @ 18:43 at 18:43
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      Thanks so much for encouraging words, GST…

      • Nov 13, 2019 @ 2:06 at 2:06
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        Black Flag on the Max Boot-Pence Plan follow-on to the Dow desperate Clean Break war on Iran, as Trump gets impeached, Boot and the neocons are going to try to grab a small window to get their Clean Break war on Iran, to try to save the collapsing apartheid Israel, Netanyahu, and Israel lobby

        The neocons are trying to make Pence into the next useful idiot like they used Dubya and try to have him give an okay/green light to Israel to attack Iran, knowing full well that Iran will have to treat it as an attack from the US as well

  • Nov 11, 2019 @ 17:30 at 17:30
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    with that number of hangers, half coud be used as “decoys”, a great place to put the ping pong and billiard tables.

    • Nov 12, 2019 @ 1:11 at 1:11
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      Perhaps they are investing in Africa so much that they want to connect Africa, Asia, and Europe with high speed rail. That rail would have to go through Tehran, Bagdad, and, Israel. Why not get involved. How does that interfere with U.S plans for the region?

  • Nov 11, 2019 @ 17:33 at 17:33
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    with just enough left over to set up vodka distilleries, so that in a worst case scenario, russian occupiers can receive a friendly welcome.

    • Nov 11, 2019 @ 22:16 at 22:16
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      he is a discredited liar and a manipulator. get out of here with ‘news’ like that!!!

      • Nov 11, 2019 @ 23:37 at 23:37
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        If you are upset what Pompeo said then prove he is a “discredited liar and a manipulator”, that is not a counter argument under any Fake Name that is OK to Posts under but lacking substance is only on you.

  • Nov 11, 2019 @ 18:56 at 18:56
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    Russia/CCCP/Putin has succeeded in inserting his puppet to weaken the US. Putin has also succeeded in turning Americans against Americans, which is the ultimate weapon in terms of effectiveness.

    Putin is a master puppeteer and a genius of disinformation. This site is often a distributor.

    • Nov 11, 2019 @ 23:41 at 23:41
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      @Techprodigee… Perhaps but Putin has his Protests in Russia too. The F-35 Jets are Russia’s problem too.

  • Nov 11, 2019 @ 19:16 at 19:16
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    It’s probsbly a pressure tactic related to Israel’s refusal to extradite the Russian hacker Aleksey Burkov back to Russia.

  • Nov 11, 2019 @ 19:19 at 19:19
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    We should first consider the fact that F35s are barely air worthy equipment. perhaps Israel will take on a role of storage caretaker for unusable American equipment?

  • Nov 11, 2019 @ 19:51 at 19:51
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    Techprodigee,…. most relevant information so far, deception is part of Russians security planning,………. to say that some defence elements disagree with Putin is a big lie,he just wanna play the nice cop and lure IDF
    But he’s real articulate

    • Nov 12, 2019 @ 1:55 at 1:55
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      LOL

  • Nov 11, 2019 @ 20:49 at 20:49
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    Though there is also a far more interesting back story to the F35 article that debka just touched on. The real story here is the ease with which Russia electronic warfare teams have been able to defeat Western Systems. The system used was to take over the interceptor and bring it down gently for study was not the Tochka but the Красуха. This is the same type of system that was used to grab the RQ170 Stealth Drone over Iran many years ago and is not the first time that it has been used to acquire the latest Western technology within the Syrian theater.

  • Nov 11, 2019 @ 22:00 at 22:00
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    The man Israel needs to know is an enemy is Sergei Shoigu, Russia’s defense minister and highly possible Putin Successor. Shoigu deeply views America as main adversary and Israel as an major extension of American interests that block Russian expansion in the Middle East and parts of Africa. Nothing to fret Israel as Russia is playing its part as expected and has truly no idea what awaits them and their buddies. It’s already being taken care of. Watch!

    • Nov 11, 2019 @ 23:53 at 23:53
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      @DFrey… Good Info & Thank You, Russian Expansion in Mideast is usually Temporary & Costly, as seen when Booted Out by Iran 1946 & Egypt 1970s, more Quicksand & Sand Storms as seen in Afghanistan! America can sell safer supplies of Oil to the Atlantic & Pacific at lower Costs! Russia will learn that too!

      • Nov 12, 2019 @ 2:16 at 2:16
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        Small detail on 1946 full stop to Stalin was Harry Truman reminding Stalin of USA big stick…. Iranian/PDRK axis will get headlines for a season… and bring another full stop to both, orders of magnitude worse than they imagine.

  • Nov 11, 2019 @ 22:17 at 22:17
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    Everyone needs to be very clear on the fact that Jim Carrol is a SHARMOUTA who is doing his moma and his goats!!!

    • Nov 11, 2019 @ 22:19 at 22:19
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      I agree GST001!

      It is important to add that Tommy is his brother and they sometimes engage each other as well as double up on their mother and their goats.

      • Nov 11, 2019 @ 23:19 at 23:19
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        The problem with Debka is that anyone can post content with any name. So unless the reader is discerning posts seemingly from the same individual can be very contradicting. So not all Tommy posts are Tommy and I’m sure that the same happens to others as well.

        • Nov 11, 2019 @ 23:32 at 23:32
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          @Tommy&Others… True about Postings Names that why “Content Matter” not the Posters Name, Grammar Police, Name-Callers. It is the Info that Counts & Names or Name-Calling & Form can Never Overcome Substance, Info, Links, & Counter Facts that are more Educational! Posts What One’s Knows Shares & Show in Words!

          • Nov 11, 2019 @ 23:56 at 23:56
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            If their were a lot more smart, awake people like yourself and others that were not afraid to speak out the word would be so much better off.

          • Nov 12, 2019 @ 1:19 at 1:19
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            @Tommy, Thank You, we are all judged as by our Words that forms Content or Ideas Shared & those that do take or copy our “Posters Names to Defame Others” are actually a Compliment because they fail to Refute us. It like Thieves that can Succeed in the Short Term but Honesty, Wisdom & Deeds by Words Win in the Long Term & their Nations too!

      • Nov 11, 2019 @ 23:26 at 23:26
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        I like to kiss and lick other people’s dirty aholes, because it makes me feel manly and special 😝

      • Nov 11, 2019 @ 23:45 at 23:45
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        Name-Calling Thoughts are only a Reflection on your thinking alone under any posted name, so be it.

  • Nov 12, 2019 @ 0:06 at 0:06
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    God bless the Jewish nation of Israel.
    May the military forces, intelligence and treasure be spent on the support of Zion!

    “Let them all be confounded and turned back that hate Zion.”
    – The Holy Bible
    Psalms 129:5

  • Nov 12, 2019 @ 0:32 at 0:32
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    Hope Israel lets the US fight with them.

    • Nov 12, 2019 @ 4:01 at 4:01
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      Nah, the Jews prefer to let Uncle Sam do the dirty work!

      • Nov 12, 2019 @ 5:45 at 5:45
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        @Anktious… History proves otherwise such as Iran asking Americans to kicked Russians out 1946, or Egypt 1959, Kuwait, Arabia, 1990s, Afghanistan, Iraq 2000s. Israeli always stood alone doing their own fighting.

      • Nov 12, 2019 @ 16:37 at 16:37
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        “uncle sam” has never fought a single battle on israel’s behalf. in fact, it was israel who had to take 39 scud missile hits for the war in iraq, at america’s request.

        and it will probably be israel who solves america’s problem with iran’s nuclear weapons, just as they did in iraq in 1981 and syria in 2007.

  • Nov 19, 2019 @ 15:10 at 15:10
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    I still believe that Putin does not want to hurt Israel.

  • Nov 19, 2019 @ 17:14 at 17:14
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    Most leaders don’t trust Putin but they still deal with him to promote their strategy. Israel will be upgrading f35’s for several years. The 15 and 16’s are making to many cracks and are old. You don’t put new planes in old hangers, they have to support the new machines in the transition.

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