Iran already has 13 bases in Syria and tens of thousands of troops. Is their removal realistic?
Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman again warned Wednesday, Nov. 15, that Israel would not permit Iran to establish a military presence in Syria, and the skeptics would soon discover this. Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said earlier this week that Israel reserves its freedom of military action in Syria to defend its borders.
Strong words about not letting Iran establish a military presence in Syria have also come from US President Donald Trump and Saudi Crown Prince Muhammad. The Saudi prince, who orchestrated Lebanese prime minister Saad Hariri’s flight to curtail Iran’s hold on Beirut, has summoned a conference of Syrian opposition leaders for Nov. 28, to create a powerful new bloc against Bashar Assad and his Iranian sponsors..
So how far and how deep is Iran’s grip on Syria? What are the facts? An answer with full details is provided in the coming DEBKA Weekly #778 issue out Friday in an exclusive rundown, the first ever, of Iran’s military deployment in Syria, naming each of its 13 bases, place by place. This deployment is so extensive and organized, that talk of removing Iran’s military presence from that country is by now unrealistic without a major upheaval.
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Just remember that when it comes right down to it: “A bad press beats a glowing eulogy any day of the week.” If it takes the slaughter of Israel’s enemies on a biblical scale, then so be it.
Go ahead and see how you can do it without seeing retaliation.
You are talking about attacking IRANIAN SOLDIERS officially and you really dare?
After all they ate invited with fill permission just like Russian are.
Hitting one or two Hez here and there is one thing, hitting a base even one , Iranian base is another ball game I don’t thing Israel can handle.
Iranians trained Hezbollah. So you really want to take on a real enemy?
I don’t think so
very funny. hezbollah still hasn’t rebuilt their villages after the last party.
Obviously you do not know what you are talking about. There are not many camels in Iran as a matter of fact Australia is the only country with feral herds of camels, the largest population in the world. It has the only herd of dromedary (one-humped) camels exhibiting wild behaviour in the world but being from Texas it is expected from you more like cattle. I do not know what camels have done to you, it will be a good idea for you to change your name to Jim camel, it suits you better.
Go and read Winograd report commissioned by Israeli government and you see how good the Israeli Occupation Forces are On the military front there were tactical, operative and logistic failures, including the flow of intelligence.[15] Many Israeli commanders and troops were ill-prepared and ill-trained to meet the combat conditions, in particular, with respect to Hezbollah’s use of portable antitank weapons, such as the 9К115-2 Metis-M. Unlike in Gaza and the West Bank, troops inside armor,[16] or taking shelter in houses, became highly vulnerable to these weapons, which led to the majority of Israeli military casualties in the war. As well, with the mobilization of reserve divisions, a host of logistical failures, such as ordnance and food shortages,[17] began affecting reserve soldiers.
They could not defeat Hezbollah and had to leave with their tails between their legs that is how good they are a real army lol and Lieberman can go back to Moldova , may he was a good bouncer but even that is questionable!
Israel will slaughter them. That will perhaps trigger the Ezekiel prophecy. Still the battle will be won by Israel according to the Bible.
So go ahead Israel.
Idiot!
Ezekiel is taking about the northern invader mostly though Persia is included as a smaller power.
According to Bilbe Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm …”
Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable …”
so Israel is flat go ahead and steal some more lands if you can!
War is terrible terrible shit.
But if fighting is to be done, yeah, then so be it. Maybe not quite one of attrition, proxies and attrition plus russians lurking around are the worst combination ever.
On the other hand, in the long process of possibly redesigning borders and territories for kurds, it is most likely Golan might want to make to decision to stay with his soldiers.
Only that good karma and decisions come easier when it is winter, and Europe depends very badly on russian natural gas.
Putin is the Biblical Gog, from the land of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal. He is the hypocrite deceiver par excellence. But, always a but; according to The Bible, he is already defeated as it is written im Yechezk’el 38: 3 and 4, and hooks will be put in his mouth.
Yec 38:3 And say, This is what the Lord has said: See, I am against you, O Gog, ruler of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal:
Yec 38:4 And turning you round, I will put hooks in your mouth and make you come out with all your army…
So, Israel, be aware…but be assured; The Almighty is fighting Putin and his allies for you.
Looks correct, and this is what Christadelphians have actually taught re Gog as a Russian leader since at least mid-XIX century, just have a look at this if you’re interested:
https://youtu.be/v4inaBCLdjo
You may like this as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl8BVMQVyz0
Ezekiel 38-39 are about a Tribulation war and a war at the end of the millennial kingdom.
We are still in the church age. Mr.Putin may be a shadow of the real thing to come, but not the real thing, not yet.
Interesting comment Hiram …. but where do you reference your chronology for such a statement?
What? Did God die and leave Hiram in charge?
Judah is NOT Isreal. Isreal10 is still in the nations. Judah and Benjamin are in the land, not Israel 10 yet……be ever so circumspect in YOUR interpretation of scripture….selah.
Sorry, my comment was a reply to LEV.
With respect, what about the Ezekiel 38-39 previso that Israel be dwelling safely in unwalled villages when Gog attacks?
“‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: On that day thoughts will come into your mind and you will devise an evil scheme. You will say, “I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people—all of them living without walls and without gates and bars. I will plunder and loot and turn my hand against the resettled ruins and the people gathered from the nations, rich in livestock and goods, living at the center of the land.”
Ezekiel 38:10-12 NIV
Wars are fought by men and weapons not biblical stories. No outcome is destined. Only death and destruction on all sides is assured.
Outcome is destined according to biblical story. Israels enemies are to be destroyed by Yahweh.
Russian and Persian armies annihilated. Read bible stories, they are very informative.
Idiot!
Aladdin here! Why are you so harsh on yourself?
Look, anyhow 13 is a very unlucky number.
According to Bilbe Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm …”
Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable …”
so Israel is flat go ahead and steal some more lands if you can!
Yes, that’s pretty much what the biblical stories foretell
The fact that the Holy Bible is a divine book of prophecy aside, the Bible records in historical fashion the numerous wars Israel has faced and to ignore that Biblical history is foolish -even from the point of view of an unbelieving atheist- since history repeats itself.
Not so sure it is smart to destroy so many bases. Afterall Iran has an unlimited amounts of Jihadis.
Literally millions, who are will willing to join their brothers in Walhalla. Israel does not have enough ordnance to kill them all. I would think that if they come to close to the border that it will be open season on them.
During the 1980-ies Iran-Iraq war about a million Farsi young men were savagely killed and mamed
(“fried, like eggplants”, according to Iraqi generals) – and SO WHAT ?!
Now you know why in Ezekiel’s Ch 37-39 it does not mention Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Israel’s immediate neighbors. It is because with Israel they were fighting the Russians, Iran, Syria, Turkey, etc. 20+ years ago we never knew why Israel neighbors were not mentioned. Now we know why. We must be very close to this war. I predict that because of this next middle east war, someone is going to find the Ark of the Covenant and settle the issue of who’s definition of God is correct. Read the book “God’s Day of Judgment” that has an answer for the future.
The Islamabomas are too busy molesting the pigs and camels to care.
I bet you’re one of those people who get all bent out of shape when people call you or America racist…
Already 13 bases?When will Israël act?Or only words.The future is not looking bright .Time will tell.
How do you think Israel could beat Iran ? Israel was not even able to win his war against Hezbollah ?
The USA will not risk a war with Russia for the sake of Israel. Saudi Arabia can’t beat the Yemen ! Not very helpfull !
Emilio !
we can nuke Iran you understand or not !We hope not but we can do it
AM ISRAEL HAI
Oh, you bad infidel, you!
How could you even think about destruction of a great islamic state, this is unheard of, preposterous, have you no shame? I did check with the elders of my village, you are going to hell, there is no doubt, and you will wash all day long the feet of righful belivers. Me, I am going straight to heavens.
But, it is not clear to me how take advantage. Please advice, maybe you have very very long hands?
And hang in the Haque for crime against humanity , understand or not.
Nukes not allowed against non nuke states understand or not?
And these criminals are talking about stopping Iran having nukes and using nuke on Iran. They were going to use it against the Egyptian when they were losing at the beginning of 1967 war. Anything is possible from these gangs of Eastern European Zionists. What Hitler could not do the Zionists did by getting rid of the Jews from Europe!
I have to tell you in all reality, that Israel can & will wipe out hezbollah ans iranian presence in syria and Lebanon. I think you miss a major point here, about last Israeli/hezbollah war.
Israel did not use even partially its capacity in that war, as it would have caused mass lebanese civilian casualties and it was not a good thing politically at that point in time.
Israel sacrificed its soldiers to avoid this scenario, but if they push Israel a bit to far, they are going to mistake a kindness with weakness.
hezbolah was not a major threat to Israel in the full sense, but iran is.
I really think that if they push Israel too far, weapons you can not even dream of may be used to finish this once and for all, and I am not talking nuke.
Have a good day, Shalom.
us and israel too soft, like impotent man.
Not “too soft”, what you feel is glove grabbing you by the testicles. Another hand comes closer with a knife. Harst! Now we can talk “impotent”!
Im always wondering why Russia must help Assad when Iran say they have so great new weapons and jets….
NAd the reason why the Saudis loose is that they are all fat and have no power.The neve work,the have there slaves.
Listen what an german officers sayed:He was in Saudi Arabia and they made a Training together.All countries have made their own holes in the sand.The Saudis did nothing-he asked them why they dont digg their holes.They sayed:We are waiting for the workers…
You see-after Saudia must work/fight for 5 minutes they are K.O.
Russia helping Syria not Iran.
Russia owe to Syria as if pipeline allowed Russia b will be destroyed.
So whatever ambitious you have on Syria, forget it. Russia will support Syria to the last Russian. Haha as though Russia need to do that
Only Sam Popack the new Lubavither Meshiach can help the Middle East.
regime change in tehran would put a stop to all this nonsense, with a minimum of unnecessary bloodshed.
short of that, a battalion of poorly trained “shahids” in fancy uniforms won’t last very long against modern weapons.
Neither israelis nor iranians want to die. Obviously, the only way for Israel to win the outcome of a war with Iran would mean having to resort to Nukes. Unfortunately, before it is able to resort to using them, the vast majority of the country would be destroyed by Iran.
I am talking about persian warriors and strategists here, not arabs.
Why do Israelis and Iranians hate each other so much?
Maybe just because they are so much alike, proud and arrogant, staunch believers in holding out the mighty truth.
I do not want to keep on too much on this possible Israel/iran conflict, but I can say for sure that iran has no chance against Israel in a proper war. Modern war is no longer fought by feet on the ground, i.e. it is NOT a numbers game – it is fought technologically, and in this arena, Israel is far ahead of the rest of the world.
There are weapons in Israeli arsenal that Israel has held back for far to long in it’s use, and I am not even talking nukes….I do not need to say more, Jews are not stupid people and will never, ever allow another even small genocide on our people, ever.
Shalom and Good Day.
That, I can understand completely. My premise here is we are dealing with 2 intelligent people so there must be an intelligent way out (without war). Unfortunately, current leaders in either country are not up to par.
I agree, it is actually beyond belief that there has hardly ever been a day in maybe even 5000 years plus that some sort of war is being fought somewhere – imagine if all that energy could be used in doing good.
I have nothing against Persian people, and I really like so many of my fellow Jews and others would much prefer an acceptable eternal peace.
Unfortunately, if this does not come about, which I regretfully doubt, the “never again option” goes into full force.
For the survival of my people, I am gladly prepared to die if necessary, but my heart would love to find human harmony and peace.
Shalom.
I agree, it is actually beyond belief that there has hardly ever been a day in maybe even 5000 years plus that some sort of war is being fought somewhere – imagine if all that energy could be used in doing good.
I have nothing against Persian people, and I really, like so many of my fellow Jews and others, would much prefer an acceptable eternal peace.
Unfortunately, if this does not come about, which I regretfully doubt, the “never again option” goes into full force.
For the survival of my people, I am gladly prepared to die if necessary, but my heart would love to find human harmony and peace co-existence.
Shalom.
It’s not wise to invite situations that could result in the use of the Samson option. Iran is ruled by a sect that wants to create a situation that brings their Mahdi. Don’t take the bait. War is hell and if anyone is to be the Aggressor with a capital A, then let it be the Iranians.
While i believe in the literal fulfillment of prophecy, a good student of prophecy will know that the Bible is written so that the fulfillment is best seen in hind sight. You can’t go molding current realities to a prophecy that may still be decades away. Having as much prophecy unfold in the last 100 years, after next to nothing for 19 centuries, it makes me think that the end of human government as we know it is not far away. But until humans bring humanity to the brink of extinction, we are going to have to contend with idiotic leaders in various countries.
Kurdish people will be extremely happy to see Persian state is hammered into pieces, Kurdistan, Azerbayjan, Ahwaz, Loristan, Balucistan and of course a remaining small piece of Persia…
Being a puppet of Israel is not going to benefit Kurdish people just look at Iraqi Kurdistan and Barazani!
“puppet of Israel”?! Kurdish people has right to receive solidarity from its friends, no any cynical, hypocritical language will deter Kurdish people. On the other hand If you are looking for puppets, I tell you; Turkish and Persian states are puppets of Ahriman…
You are an absolute moron. There probably more camels in US than Iran Jim Camel! You are very thick just like Lieberman the bouncer!
Illegally destabilized Syria, created ISIS, destroyed Iraq, orange revolutions, fascists in Ukraine, blatant Russophobia.
Goal achieved, chaos, war, tensions: We sell more weapons to most conflicting parties, divide and rule. Bravo USA. Thanks USA!
In order to drive bigger cars at home, killing thousand of whom ever far away over the oceans is ok, as long as we control the media and misrepresent the facts to 90 percent of population, the rest 10 percent will succumb to peer pressure, the 0.1 percent will be dealt with mistakes in legal system. There is only one problem: The Russians will not give in, what ever may come.
“puppet of Israel”?! Kurdish people has right to receive solidarity from its friends, no any cynical, hypocritical language will deter Kurdish people. On the other hand If you are looking for puppets, I tell you; Turkish and Persian states are puppets of Ahriman…
You know what will happen ?
It will end with a war between US and Russia, it will last at most, 10 minutes !
ABM and ABMD will fly like flies, but russian systems will be neutralized immediately, than peace will take place !!!