Israel surprised by Palestinian upgraded missile attack on two major cities. Iron Dome didn’t react

How did Hamas get hold of the advanced Tornado-G Grad missiles aimed at Beersheba and Greater Tel Aviv early Wednesday, Oct. 17? Serious casualties and more extensive damage were only avoided by good luck when one of the missiles wrecked a home in Beersheba and the second landed in the sea. These improved Grad types are serious deadly weapons, carrying boosted warheads containing 70-80 kilos of explosives to a distance of 40-60km. They are copies of the high-explosive fragmentation of HE-FRAG  warheads, and made their first appearance in Palestinian terrorist hand in Gaza on Wednesday.

Were Israel’s government heads and security chiefs over-preoccupied with the never-ending Egyptian efforts to mediate a truce? Is that why they missed Hamas’ and the pro-Iranian Islamic Jihad’s preparations in Gaza to catch the IDF off guard, trusting Israeli officers to obey official directives to avoid any major escalation?

To divert attention from this lapse, Israel’s media, fed by official sources, focused on questioning which Palestinian terrorist group was responsible for the dual missile attack, when only two militias, Hamas and Islamic Jihad were armed with advanced Grads. As though it made any difference. Both trotted out denials of involvement in the attack.

The IDF and defense ministry spokesman claim this missile is the product of Palestinian workshops in Gaza. This is highly unlikely. The two missiles fired Wednesday were fitted with sophisticated automatic positioning navigation, a capability which neither Hamas nor Jihad has been able to manufacture unaided. They were most likely smuggled into the Gaza Strip through Sinai and supplied by Iran or fellow terrorist groups in eastern Libya. The synchronized launch of two advanced missiles in opposite directions – east to Beersheba and north to the Tel Aviv district – called for professional preparation, advanced training and precise coordination between two missile teams. How come all this was missed by the IDF’s intelligence watchers and the country was left to be caught by surprise?

After the event, a senior IDF officer admitted when asked why Iron Dome did not respond, that even that wonder system is “not hermetic.” But he did not explain how one of the Palestinian missiles missed buildings in the Tel Aviv district – not because it was intercepted , but because it was mis-aimed and fell in the sea, nor how all the city’s alert sirens were silent.
The prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu cancelled the security cabinet meeting scheduled for Wednesday morning and was closeted instead with army and security chiefs for long hours of consultation, while the air force conducted its usual, mostly useless, tit-for-tat strikes at terrorist targets in the Gaza Strip. While a decision on what happens next was awaited, political correspondents speculated that Hamas would be given another “last chance” to behave on Friday, and hold back its regular violent rampage, before Israel’s biggest military stick landed on its head; or, alternatively, until Egypt has another chance to broker a long-term truce, or even until the IDF chief of staff Lt. Gen. Gady Eisenkot returns from his visit to the United States in the next 24 hours.

 

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62 thoughts on “Israel surprised by Palestinian upgraded missile attack on two major cities. Iron Dome didn’t react

  • Oct 17, 2018 @ 14:35 at 14:35
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    Wake up IDF

    • Oct 17, 2018 @ 18:47 at 18:47
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      No, Wake up Jews. IDF is handcuffed by the government. Its time for Jews to start behaving like masters in there own land. CNN is a mother fucker on this event as they display an Arab vicitim of the IAF strikes. These Arab live and breath jihad and Jews in Eretz better wake the fuck up and start kicking the violent Arabs out of our land. They are the occupiers. Not a single Jew in Gaza and these fuckers lash out with violance on a constant basis. The Arabs in Gaza all agree they want to kill Jews while the Jews fight amoungst themselves what is a legal way to response – all the while the shit is getting real day by day. The sirens in Tel aviv did not sound. Wake up Jews. Wake the fuck up!

      From the river to the sea Israel needs to be Arab free.

      • Oct 17, 2018 @ 20:36 at 20:36
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        Wow you don’t sound like a NAZI at all

        • Oct 18, 2018 @ 2:07 at 2:07
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          Typical leftist – respond to truth and common sense with name-calling and phony accusations.

        • Oct 18, 2018 @ 2:30 at 2:30
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          When one is accustomed to seeing Jews weak and persecuted, it may look out of the ordinary to you for a proud Jew who knows his history to exude rational self defense and patriotism for his Homeland as any Frenchman or Russian would do. Get used to it. It ain’t 1945 anymore.

          • Oct 19, 2018 @ 0:37 at 0:37
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            Yes. The best idea we should make a new Auschwitz 2 Camp out of the Gaza strip, we can use it for all those Palestinians. We can make gas chambers on the borders for mass killing .We can also make them into human guinea pigs for testing chemicals. That sounds reasonable. What do you think 🙂 Do we live in this type of world were hatred has over taken reason. What would have all those Jews that died in those camps 1945 say, would it be what these comments say or would they have some souls that have empathy and compassion. Shame on humanity. Hitler also was under the banner of defense and spoke from his patriotic way. HAIL ISRAEL

        • Oct 18, 2018 @ 3:43 at 3:43
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          Correct, his position is 100% sound.

        • Oct 18, 2018 @ 8:51 at 8:51
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          Nazi? No just a normal human being. Nazis slaughtered innocents. Arab Islamist Jihadist Barbarians are the farthest thing from innocents. They deserve to be expelled and much worse, for their heinous barbaric crimes.

        • Oct 18, 2018 @ 12:58 at 12:58
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          Hey Average, What would the Turks do if the Armenians were launching missiles, mortars, incendiary balloons etc. against Turkey for years on end? They would level Armenia. The Chinese, Russians and any sane people would do the same. Even today the Turks are erasing the traces (churches etc.) of Armenian/Christian settlement in Eastern Turkey. The justification for the Armenians to resort to terror/resistance is there. Ditto for American Indians,aborigines and other displaced/’invaded’ peoples. About half of Israel’s Jewish population are Sephardic Jews who fled Arab/Muslims land after massacres and confiscations of their property, homes and businesses. The Gazans are descendants of people who lost their homes in the so-called Naqba. Who launched the war in 48? They are sore losers, who were salivating over the prospect of taking what the Jews had built in Palestine. Are their innocents among them? Of course, but the history of Islam is conquest, subjugation and enslavement of non Muslims. They do not like it happening to them. Israel has every right to defend themselves and if need be eradicate Gaza and put its population to the sword. Otherwise the shit will never end.

        • Oct 18, 2018 @ 22:11 at 22:11
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          He sounds frustrated and certainly not a Nazi that seeks to eliminate a people, as in kill them, without cause. He rightfully feels endangered and wants a much more aggressive policy.That doesn’t mean he is right is seeking to eject all Arabs from the land of Israel. His comment was clearly emotional.

          As to the main story, I actually think this is bad news for Hamas and Gazans. Now that Israel knows that Hamas has very destructive, long range weaponry, Israel will be justified in responding even more forcefully than in the past. This may not happen now, but given Hamas’s relentless goal of eliminating Israel and its history of using violence, Israel’s response may be inevitable. I hope not. I hope Gazans come to their senses and open up their eyes to the indisputable reality that Jews were in the region first and that they were coerced out by both of the violent occupation perpetrated by the Romans and subsequently the Muslims. As Dhimmis the lives of Jews were highly restricted, limited in their work, where they could live, and from time to time, aside from complete disrespect that comes with being a Dhimmi and an infidel, they were abused and killed. That Jews finally were able to return to the safety of their own land, having suffered interminably over the centuries, including in countries that most so-called Palestinians emanated, is not something that fair minded people would regard as anathema or criminal. I hope both sides sit down eventually, compromise and make the lives of their people peaceful, normal and productive. Its the only way forward. Nothing else will work without massive loss of live and suffering.

      • Oct 17, 2018 @ 22:51 at 22:51
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        Jew Boy,
        Do you have a swastika tattooed on your forehead?

        • Oct 18, 2018 @ 2:09 at 2:09
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          Do you have any balls between your legs or just a pussy?

        • Oct 18, 2018 @ 18:01 at 18:01
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          Rooski Trolli

        • Oct 19, 2018 @ 0:04 at 0:04
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          WE TATTOOED IT ON YOUR WHOREMOTHER’S PUZZY LIPS AFTER WE PAID HER.

      • Oct 18, 2018 @ 4:47 at 4:47
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        arabienfrei

        • Oct 19, 2018 @ 3:32 at 3:32
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          not quite. there are over a million arab citizens of israel, but what happened yo the, aboriginal, jewish communities of jerusalem, hevron, jericho, gaza, etc.?

          it’s the arabs who have engaged in 100 years of ethnically-cleansing the land of israel of its jews.

          do get stuffed, troll.

      • Oct 19, 2018 @ 20:56 at 20:56
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        You start by allowing them to live in peace and free …

        Then you can talk whatever if they misbehave.

        Look into the mirror you own misdeeds before looking why they fight back.

    • Oct 19, 2018 @ 13:15 at 13:15
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      Israel began this war by allowing their enemies to train their current armies in schools that were Israel’s responsibility.
      Rather than fulfilling the Mandate and bringing individual rights and religious freedom to all of the lands of the Mandate.
      Claimed it was too hard.
      Not having done it will now have prove to be much harder r der.
      In the time since Oslo a generation of children could have been .

  • Oct 17, 2018 @ 16:03 at 16:03
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    The more weaponry like this they use, the less they will ever get a relaxation of the blockade.

  • Oct 17, 2018 @ 16:37 at 16:37
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    Only rational way to end this conflict is to secure land. For every terrorist act, Israel will cease and annex one dunam of land, which is more than fair. Eventually, the pals will either concede or loose land that they don’t even justifiably own.

    • Oct 18, 2018 @ 13:05 at 13:05
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      Nobody told you? Israel’s been doing that already for 50 years.

  • Oct 17, 2018 @ 17:20 at 17:20
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    I think that is a very good idea Ariel.

  • Oct 17, 2018 @ 17:41 at 17:41
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    superman, meet kryptonite, he is speaking with a Russian accent.

  • Oct 17, 2018 @ 17:42 at 17:42
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    This is a leadership issue. The Israeli government does not know how to win a war. The last Gaza war they only stopped at a stalemate instead of winning. You have to destroy the enemy so they know they have lost. Then you have to kill their leadership so it never erupts again. Finally you have to deport all those combatants to other countries. Don’t worry what the UN says or the noise the EU makes. Remember 75 years ago the same Europeans were busy murdering Jews with great pleasure. I know the current Israeli leadership are not going to do anything because they don’t want the “world” to hate them for defending yourselves. And I am sure Debka reviewers will not post this comment. They don’t like the truth shoved in their face like I do.

    • Oct 17, 2018 @ 17:47 at 17:47
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      with supporters like this, who needs enemies?

    • Oct 17, 2018 @ 19:49 at 19:49
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      Agreed. They are allowing the other side to dictate the pace of events. That is obviously not how you win a war. The Israeli leadership does this because it can’t agree on any better outcome. In other words, it doesn’t know what winning would look like. Once Israel elects leaders who realize that it is the Arabs who have turned the whole conflict into a zero-sum game – not us, the Arabs – by refusing to compromise in any meaningful way and by refusing to give up their genocidal aims – it will then be able annex the Judea and Sumaria, to kick out the restive elements of that population to the other side of manageable borders and to slowly demolishing every square inch of Gaza in response to rocket fire.

  • Oct 17, 2018 @ 17:43 at 17:43
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    superman, meet kryptonit, he’s Russian

  • Oct 17, 2018 @ 19:42 at 19:42
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    Whenever Israel defends itself against Arab aggression, it is condemned for anything exceeding ‘proportionality’ as defined by the Arab sympathizers quickest to rise in condemnation of not the aggressor but of the target, the Jewish state.

    If proportionality is the acceptable response Israel is permitted to exercise, Israel should kill 46 Arabs for each Israeli killed by Arabs. For that 46/1 ratio is the population of Arabs in the Middle East vs Israel: http://www.imninalu.net/israel-arabs.htm.

    And that’s only in terms of human cum human. If we measure in terms of achievement, culture and respect for life vs animalistic savagery, the ratio in Israel’s favor become immeasurably more disproportionate.

  • Oct 17, 2018 @ 20:06 at 20:06
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    Oh well… Looks like the Talmud and rabbinical Judaic days are numbered… And God using the surrounding elements around Israel to clear out Israel… And reintroduce the order after Melchizedek. Priestly service…

    • Oct 18, 2018 @ 2:13 at 2:13
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      Read your Bible, punk.

  • Oct 17, 2018 @ 20:14 at 20:14
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    The longer Israel waits to destroy Hamas, the stronger their weapons will be, and more injuries we suffered by Israelis when another war begins.

    As demonstrated time and time again hamas only interprets Israeli threats and measured responses as weakness. They do not respect weakness, it only gives them more impetus to escalate their attacks.

    The tit-for-tat response does not work, hamas is not afraid of Israel. It is time for Israel to grow a pair and defend itself, as any other nation in the world would.

    • Oct 17, 2018 @ 21:06 at 21:06
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      We in America, are sometimes know as paper tigers, I use to like Israel for their motto “an eye for and eye” but even that has is no longer the true.

  • Oct 17, 2018 @ 20:20 at 20:20
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    As far as public opinion goes, I read and see about every Palestinian injured or killed. I never see any articles or reporters mentioning the fires, weekly demonstrations and now bombs against Israel and it’s people.

    Hamas is winning by executing terror against Israelis daily, and also winning in the world public opinion by the way they represent themselves.

    When will the Israeli government realize it also has to show the world what is happening to them, in order for the world to understand the realities in this region, that they are constantly being terrorized.

  • Oct 17, 2018 @ 20:29 at 20:29
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    It’s not the first time Iron Dome had failed to detect and react. Either there is some systemic fault and breakdown, or for what ever reason instead of monitoring air space 24/7 it was deactivated. The latter sounds weird, but quite possible in Israel.

    • Oct 17, 2018 @ 22:55 at 22:55
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      Imagine when they launch 1000 of those missiles?

      • Oct 18, 2018 @ 8:56 at 8:56
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        Imagine the Israeli response to that.

        • Oct 18, 2018 @ 19:03 at 19:03
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          Certainly not doing much now.

        • Oct 18, 2018 @ 19:15 at 19:15
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          Cowering and calling the US to fight the battle for them?

          • Oct 19, 2018 @ 3:38 at 3:38
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            hey, jerkoff, when has the united states *ever* fought a battle for israel? when has a single american soldier set foot on israeli soil?

            take your joo-baiting trash and go join your terrorist friends, in hell.

  • Oct 17, 2018 @ 20:49 at 20:49
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    A logical consequence of continued policies of promotions not based on merit.

  • Oct 17, 2018 @ 21:18 at 21:18
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    The main problem is that Israel’s leaders place their highest trust not in the God who sealed a covenant with our forefathers, but in the false god of liberalism. Consequently, they’re not sure that their right to the land is greater than the Arab right, they’re not sure they have the moral right to harm those who seek to annihilate them, and they fear the wrath of the nations more than they fear the wrath of their Creator.

    The world will only believe that Israel owns the land when it acts like the rightful owner, by ruling out any territorial concessions and driving out any hostile populations.

    • Oct 18, 2018 @ 0:39 at 0:39
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      Gaza was given for peace. There is no peace so the agreement is void. Israel should give the Palestinians 1 month to leave Gaza and then declare war on those remaining. War should start with a MOAB dropped on the city under which Hamas is headquartered thus taking out their leadership and many tunnels which are interconnected.

      Next come hits on the water, fuel, and electrical generating facilities along with a few key buildings. Then nothing but observation for a few days followed by ground forces with helicopters and bull dozers to detonate and demolish the remaining structures.

      This is how you get peace in Gaza you remove the people who don’t deserve the land because the land was given in exchange for peace and since they don’t want peace you obtain it by removing them after giving them warning and a month to get out or dig in to fight.

      • Oct 18, 2018 @ 2:06 at 2:06
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        Well, if giving up the Israel territory of Gaza did not work, best plan is to take back the West Bank for a change and clarify the situation with the Gaza some other time.

      • Oct 18, 2018 @ 2:15 at 2:15
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        I agree. These people do not belong in Israel. The Torah forbids making a covenant with the inhabitants of the Land. Abraham made a big mistake by making a covenant with Avimelech King of the Philistines in Beersheva. The Children of Israel were forced to move to Egypt because of it. The inhabitants of Gaza also refuse to obey the Seven Laws of Noah as well. This is a major flaw in the Koran. Jews have 613 mitzvot, Christians observe the Seven laws of Noah and basically obey the en Commandments as well. The Gazans should be asked to leave Israel permanently. There is plenty of money available to help those willing to leave in peace. Those who refuse will have to be forcibly driven out or destroyed. This is the correct way to have peace in Israel.

        • Oct 19, 2018 @ 3:42 at 3:42
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          technically, they aren’t “inhabitants” of the land. according to unrwa, they had only to prove residency from 1946-1948, two years!

          the biblical verse refers to canaanite idolaters, who have been extinct for more than 1,000 years.

          https://www.unrwa.org/palestine-refugees

  • Oct 17, 2018 @ 22:34 at 22:34
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    Wow! Censorship ended on Debka, the comments are live again.

    So what to do is easy:
    1st stop electricity
    2nd stop water
    3rd stop food supply.
    Last option: full bloody war with heavy civilian losses.
    1st carpet bomb the whole Gaza strip two times
    2nd wait 3 weeks for the dust to settle and the pests to do their work.
    3rd see what happens,
    last: go in with soldiers and bulldozers and clear the whole area and transform it
    into a tank training ground.
    So the lands between Bersheva and Eilat can be used for construction of new towns,
    as the tanks have a new home to play.

    • Oct 17, 2018 @ 22:58 at 22:58
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      They already live in a concentration camp, so step 1 is in place. How about some gas chambers?

      • Oct 18, 2018 @ 2:18 at 2:18
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        You wouldn’t know a ‘concentration camp’ if your mother serviced every nazi there.

      • Oct 18, 2018 @ 14:24 at 14:24
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        The only concentration camp with wealthy people enjoying their own Hamas terror government and a strip of land where the money from billions in aid goes towards advancing their weaponry and fund an army of terrorists to kill people in neighboring countries and places which are on their hit list as a strategy to get more money flowing in from leftist leaders in Europe, the UN and all others who think that the incentives will make a religious-based hatred go away. The hate is built-in and the only way to deal with it is to keep these vermin from civilization they abhor, detest and want to destroy – to replace with ISIS-style rats supplied by the Islamic world (Iran, Qatar, Turkey, etc) and used as their pawns to advance Islam.

  • Oct 18, 2018 @ 1:29 at 1:29
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    The Ashkenazi are acting like their bags already pack for Astana,

    • Oct 18, 2018 @ 21:09 at 21:09
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      WHERE YOUR SHARMOUTA OTHER WAITS WITH OPEN LEGS!

  • Oct 18, 2018 @ 1:35 at 1:35
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    How do you stop a rabid dog with nothing to loose? The solution would be easy if it was with any other people. When most of the world supports the rabid dog it complicates things immensely.

  • Oct 18, 2018 @ 2:00 at 2:00
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    In this case only a good peace plan may save the peace of the land. Let the Arabs populating by error today the Israel territory of Gaza go back in Egypt where from they came. That’s it!

  • Oct 18, 2018 @ 6:22 at 6:22
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    It seems a full blown war has commenced and the Israeli government is trying to figure out how to respond to it.

  • Oct 18, 2018 @ 13:47 at 13:47
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    The Terrorstinians are looking to conquer Israel according to their Islamic religion. At the present they have Gaza and much of Judea-Samaria and their people are in most of Jordan and many other parts of the Arab world and beyond. If Israel does not begin to push back, the terrorists will destroy Israel from both within and outside of a country without borders. It is coming down to the crunch.

  • Oct 18, 2018 @ 15:44 at 15:44
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    Someone gave the rockets (or material to build it) to the terrorist in Gaza. These supply must be stopped and the most advanced weapons of Gazans will be stones.

  • Oct 18, 2018 @ 20:43 at 20:43
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    FIRST DESTROY THEIR CAMELS BEFORE THESE PIGSLAMISTS GO TO PRAY. THIS WILL DESTROY THEIR MORALE AS PIGSLAMISTS LOVE NOTHING MORE THAN TO FELLATE THEIR CAMELS AFTER PRAYERS . THEN SEND IN THE IDF TO RUN THEIR TANK TREADS OVER THEIR HEADS.

  • Oct 18, 2018 @ 21:49 at 21:49
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    Until now,comments have been blocked.Wrong!

  • Oct 19, 2018 @ 12:46 at 12:46
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    As an Israeli I am wondering if the IDF has the capability to decisively defeat the Hamas group. They have stated many times their aim is to wipe Israel off the map. They are being armed with more destructive weapons which has just been proven. They are growing stronger while we sit on our hands and bomb empty buildings.
    If we cannot wipe the Hamas out, how in the world are we suppose to handle the Hizballah or Iran?

  • Oct 19, 2018 @ 17:04 at 17:04
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    Israel was commanded by HASHEM 1500 B.C.,
    before the Landtaking,
    to exterminate all inhabitants in the Promised Land,
    But they did not obey HASHEM and,
    now after 3500 Years they have this Problem.
    HASHEM has not altered HIS intention against the Filistees in the Gaza Strip but,
    Israel can not do HIS intention Now since,
    Israel is not in covenant with Him.
    Israel should understand that OBEY HASHEM is Her Blessing.

    A future time will come when Israel will be in Covenant wit HASHEM again.

    Malachi chapter 4 Verses
    5“Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
    6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the land with a curse.

    Comment / The Dreadfull DAY of HASHEM is the 3rd World War, Ezekiel chapter 38/39.

    The Hearts of The Fathers( Abram/Isak/Jacobs Relations with HASHEM before the giving of the Law through Moses,
    was a Covenant of FAITH.

    Here it is Jeremia chap.31 verses –
    31 “Behold, the days come,” saith the Lord, “that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah—
    32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband unto them,” saith the Lord.
    33 “But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel: After those days,” saith the Lord, “I will put My law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and will be their God, and they shall be My people.

    The Result –
    New Testament chap.7 verses
    Revelation 7 21st Century King James Version (KJ21)
    7 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
    2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God; and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
    3 saying, “Hurt not the earth, neither the sea nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.”
    4 And I heard the number of them that were sealed: there were sealed a hundred and fortyfour thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
    5 Of the tribe of Judah were sealed twelve thousand; of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand; of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand;
    6 of the tribe of Asher were sealed twelve thousand; of the tribe of Naphtali were sealed twelve thousand; of the tribe of Manasseh were sealed twelve thousand;
    7 of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand; of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand; of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand;
    8 of the tribe of Zebulun were sealed twelve thousand; of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand; of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.

    Arn.Sweden.

    • Oct 19, 2018 @ 20:58 at 20:58
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      There is no time

  • Oct 21, 2018 @ 11:27 at 11:27
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    Russian jamming test passes with flying colors? LOL! LOOOOL! ROFLOL

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