Israeli-Syrian armed duel over Quneitra has begun

Israel’s official accounts of the critical events around Quneitra  of Wednesday, July 11,   shifted ground, with bearing on the Netanyahu-Putin talks in Moscow.
The Syrian drone shot down over the Sea of Galilee was first attributed to an errant UAV from the Daraa battles 100km away. The IDF spokesman said it was tracked for 15 minutes by 4 Israeli jets and 2 choppers until the Patriot interception was ordered.  DEBKAfile: The Syrians, Iranians and Hizballah have now learned from this incident that it takes the Israeli high command at least 15 minutes to use the red line to the Russian command at Khmeimim and obtain clearance. Meanwhile, although the UAV was not yet known to be unarmed, sirens were not activated to warn the thousands of holidaymakers at Sea of Galilee resorts of a possibly dangerous hostile drone overhead. The sirens only sounded when the Patriot missile blew the intruder up.

Then, after midnight, it was decided after all to retaliate for the purportedly “stray” drone intrusion. Three Israeli air strikes were conducted against Syrian army posts in the Quneitra region. DEBKAfile: The IDF seemed to have borrowed the tit-for-tat strategy long used against Palestinian terror emanating from the Gaza Strip, whose only material consequence has been the steady erosion of Israel’s military deterrence.
The immediate purpose of the overnight IAF strikes against Syria was to accentuate Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu’s message to President Vladimir Putin, that Israel is not budging from its demand for the full expulsion of Iranian and its proxies’ from all parts of Syria. After their talks in the Kremlin, an “Israeli official” stated: “They (Russia) have an active interest in seeing a stable Assad regime and we in getting the Iranians out. These can clash or can align.”  This formulation underlined the absence of common ground between Putin and Netanyahu. It is obvious to both parties, as well as to Bashar Assad and Gen. Qassem Soleimani, that wherever the Syrian army is to be found, so too are Iranians and Hizallah.

Wednesday therefore produced three pivotal consequences:

  1. Nothing new was achieved in the Putin-Netanyahu talks aside from reaffirming their ongoing liaison in Syria to avoid military clashes between them.
  2. Nothing was settled regarding the Iranian and Hizballah presence in Syria.
  3. The military showdown between Israel and Syria over Quneitra has begun.

 

 

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49 thoughts on “Israeli-Syrian armed duel over Quneitra has begun

  • Jul 12, 2018 @ 9:17 at 9:17
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    Delaying response until after bedtime can be a useful tactic. Sleep well Prince of Persia…

    • Jul 13, 2018 @ 1:13 at 1:13
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      any conventional columns of military vehicles heading from syria towards israel will be annihilated

      any drone or rocket attacks might draw an IDF on Tehran

      any russian aircraft that engage IDF will be destroyed

      any russian anti aircraft system that is deployed against the IDF will be destroyed

      If Lezbollah lifts a finger or fires a fire cracker the southern part of the country will be annihilated: this is to prevent the stored 150,000 rockets that the UN allowed Hezbollah to import can not be used. This time the UN will not be able to stop Israel because last time they promised to prevent Hexbollah getting missiles, let alone becoming the largest non-state military force on the planet

      Iran is being given the option to walk home, or be shipped home in coffins

      very polite considering the rampant insane genocidal proclamations that come from Tehran

      popcorn

      any any mistakes can be dealt with unconventionally.

      If the USA is frightened of North Korea WTF is Iran doing baiting a country that can reduce it to a glass car park before it can react? Iran is run by a bunch of stupid idiots: they cannot win against he IDF.

      • Jul 13, 2018 @ 2:36 at 2:36
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        You do look like a robot. A really old one with floppy disks stolen from an abandoned warehouse. If not, you just delusional. No more shekels 4 u either way

      • Jul 13, 2018 @ 12:19 at 12:19
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        you are really idiot

  • Jul 12, 2018 @ 9:22 at 9:22
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    I disagree that nothing was achieved. Israel did demonstrate that it will defend its territory and airspace. The IDF has access to all information and doesn’t have to contact Debka before making a decision.
    That said, I have said for the past few years that Iran is not leaving Syria. The mix of nations on Israel’s northern border is going to fulfill the Ezekiel 38-39 prophecy and eventually invade Israel. At that time God himself will destroy them.

    • Jul 12, 2018 @ 9:44 at 9:44
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      Bulls !!!

    • Jul 12, 2018 @ 10:00 at 10:00
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      POTUS Trump has to stand by the Syrian Cease-Fire-Plan once agreed to or will endanger American Geopolitics relationships across the Middle East. Iran will be Embolden, Pressure and Harm can come to Israel, Jordan and Egypt could face shaken respect to maintain its relationships.

      This is why the Bibi-Putin-Trump talks coming up are so vitally important for some kind of understanding from Two of Biggest Nuclear Powers caught in a Civil War in Syria.

      All Civil Wars end but seldom remain stable, even America’s North & South hold major differences still from 1865 Political, Cultural and Economical Divisions, Mutual Derision’s, and Dissensions.

      Same with Russia since 1917 and 1991. Whereby the Breakup of 15 Republics has Weaken Russia that badly needs Western European, and American cooperation and invitation to advance Russia Integration in the coming Decades.

      This is why the Opportunity for America-Russia-Israel to come together and let Syria and Iran realize they will have One Shot to save them selves and their time is running out.

      Cold Conflicts can erupt into Hot Short Wars that will provide No Advantages to any Nation, some may back down, some may make mistakes, but none will dominate in a stalemate, unless there is no choice but to choose the Short Hot War and that favors America, Arab Coalition and Israel in the Short Term. They can cause more Manpower by 40% Setbacks and Materials Weaponry Destruction by 70%. Then the blogs, fogs, and bogs begin a slow process of No Peace for anyone just sustainable draining of everyone with more Discontented Removal of Refugees.

    • Jul 12, 2018 @ 12:14 at 12:14
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      Blagh blah blah, ‘Ezekiel 38-39’ ‘Menachem went forth.’ ‘What is above, what is beneath, what was before and what will be. He who takes no thought for the honor of his Maker, it would be better for him had he never been born.’

      • Jul 12, 2018 @ 14:00 at 14:00
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        I could explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you.

    • Jul 12, 2018 @ 13:28 at 13:28
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      Golan is not part of israel soil and that is a fact.
      No country in the world even US of A didn’t recognized golan as part of israel

      • Jul 12, 2018 @ 14:01 at 14:01
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        #GreaterIsrael

      • Jul 12, 2018 @ 14:57 at 14:57
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        Keep telling yourself that, Hank.

      • Jul 12, 2018 @ 18:53 at 18:53
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        I say it is

      • Jul 13, 2018 @ 1:18 at 1:18
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        Hey gefilte fish brain; IDF tanks roll up and down the Golan all day and all night and forever.

        stop the QQ

      • Jul 13, 2018 @ 2:17 at 2:17
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        If Israels enemies had used it for bettering their country instead of a high spot for attacks they may still have it. They lost the land to a superior fighting force. It has happened the odd time in history.

    • Jul 12, 2018 @ 18:48 at 18:48
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      Wrong! the Gog & Magog invasion happened when Russian-Turkish-Polish Ashkenazi Jews flocked to Israel in 1948 when there were no Security Gates, Walls, Iron Dome, David Sling, IDF.

      Eze 38:11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,

      • Jul 12, 2018 @ 22:21 at 22:21
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        Ezekiel 38 han’t happened yet. Read all of it. I will take Israel 7 months to bury ROSH and its allies

    • Jul 13, 2018 @ 3:03 at 3:03
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      Yep! ….and destroy secular Israel as well. No more Tel Aviv, Haifa, no more gay pride parades in Jerusalem.

  • Jul 12, 2018 @ 9:57 at 9:57
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    I have information from the highest source available that Iran will soon feel the effects of bunker buster bombs on their nuclear installations. The United States bombed Japan during WW2 and now they are one of our best allies and friends. The best way to kill a snake is to cut off it’s head. BTW the so-called “palestinians” will soon be sent packing to other countries. If they are lucky President Trump will arrange a nice area to build them some tall condo buildings and arrange mortgages for them as well. They can have new jobs and infrastructure so that they will be able to live in peace and prosper. Those who refuse to leave will be forced out one way or another. Abbas and his wealthy friends will enjoy their new lives along with their Arab brethren somewhere other than in Israel. The Knesset needs to inform them that “Palestine” no longer exists and their efforts for a state inside of Israel is not going to happen.

    • Jul 12, 2018 @ 10:12 at 10:12
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      Iran extending a held out hand and changing to Persia’s King Cyrus Middle East Welcoming all Cultures, Religions, and Sharing Mutual Economics would be a New Dawn of Middle East Wonderment, but 4 Decades of Spreading Hate can’t change in 8 Months…….they brought it upon them selves acting, Boasting, and Supporting Death to Anyone and Everyone they Choose over the years, and why the True Solution is all of the Middle East to turn on just Iran to Save Stability in the Middle East.

      Syria Civil Wat Chaos Ending is in Sight but Iran is the next to have a Civil War to Cause them Insecurity within and without. No one will miss the Mullahs and there is Nowhere for them to go this time like Khomeini Hid Out in Paris. It is time for a Strong New King Cyrus to take over and start the Iranian Civil War and the Persians will be the Victors in Economic Rebuilding.

    • Jul 12, 2018 @ 14:17 at 14:17
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      @Jay Silverman – I agree, the best solution is that the Arabs who don’t want to live in Israel, simply leave Israel and start a new live elsewhere. Maybe an agreement can be found with Arab nations to manage the transfer. Instead of financing ongoing terrorist activities of the so called “Palestinians”, the UN can buy them land in willing Arab nations and give them a loan for the start. Conflict solved.

    • Jul 13, 2018 @ 1:22 at 1:22
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      Dude…Jordan is Palestine

      It was meant to be part of Israel when the arabs got the whole middle east, but the Hashemites stole it

      If Jews cannot live in Muslim countries why the f&*( should Muslims be able to live in Israel: they are breeding an ecological disaster in a race to out number the Jews in their own country.

      • Jul 13, 2018 @ 1:38 at 1:38
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        It’s a “demographic” disaster, not an “ecological” one.

  • Jul 12, 2018 @ 11:32 at 11:32
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    I would not be THAT pessimistic !
    Iran’s coffers are dwindling fast and the average is citizen increasingly fed up with a regime that has brought them basically nothing for decades
    Ayotollahs won’t be able to keep armed forces in Syria for financial reasons .

    • Jul 12, 2018 @ 15:34 at 15:34
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      Indeed the Iranian people are more and more shifting away from the ayatollah regime. The people are starving and the regime only spend their money on proxy wars abroad. Why Iranians should suffer just because of the problems of foreign people far away like so called “palestinians” or “houthis” ?! Makes no sense.

    • Jul 12, 2018 @ 20:27 at 20:27
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      I expect the Persian people, even those in Fascist Iran’s Revolutionary Gestapo, to rise up and smite the ayatoolas.

      Marg Bar Fascist Iran!!!

      LONG LIVE PERSIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jul 12, 2018 @ 12:44 at 12:44
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    Once again a nice visit to “friend” Putin, just for coffee and cookies ( maybe 1 vodka) ??Or just a money laundring visit ??
    Nothing really achieved so far, just that Assad can complete the job.Iranian and Hezzies will stay so long as possible and will take action in the nearby future.Say it again strike fast and hard and give them hell.No tit for tat strategy will solve the problems in the North as well in the South.

  • Jul 12, 2018 @ 13:47 at 13:47
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    Nothing accomplished ?? Maybe there are some details that remain secret even to Debka moles
    We shall see after ASSad regains control

  • Jul 12, 2018 @ 13:59 at 13:59
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    The Natanyouu Putin get together will produce a place for Natanyaou to move to in case he gets indicted and a place for Lieberman to change his underwear from all the bull statements he makes

  • Jul 12, 2018 @ 14:12 at 14:12
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    Once again the “army without soldiers” illegally attacked Syria to back up their alCIAda allies, who triggered the attack with their ‘drone’.

    Once again the attack failed to do anything besides delay the inevitable and demonstrate the hardcore love shown by the occupiers of Palestine for ISIS, Nusra, and the like.

    No problem for Avigdor the Fatman with Islam, provided it’s the head-chopping, heart eating, cannibalistic mercenaries.

    Is the ten million a day in welfare checks from Uncle Sam going to be enough to build new bomb shelters? Dependent geriatric land-grabbers want to know.

    • Jul 13, 2018 @ 3:23 at 3:23
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      If it wasn’t for uncle Sammich’ holding back NothingYahoo, judistan would have attacked everyone already.

  • Jul 12, 2018 @ 14:30 at 14:30
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    Russia wants a stable Syria, Iran is a destabilizing factor in Syria. So what’s the problem? Is Russia not able to control Syria without Iranian forces? That would be a sign of weakness by Russia and disastrous for the future of Syria. Becuase Iran is a permanent aggressor in the ME and will not change unless there is a regime change in Iran. In one way or another, Iran means troubles. To kick Iran out of Syria is the only way to create stability in Syria.

  • Jul 12, 2018 @ 17:15 at 17:15
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    Time for Iran to start kicking some butts

    • Jul 12, 2018 @ 19:18 at 19:18
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      Yes time for Iranians to start killing the Ahminijihad, adolf rouhani, and all the Iranian Republican guard, and the Aryan Nazis who disguised themselves as Muslims who blame Israel for false charges of genocide while Prime Minister Erdogan eats Kurdish children for dinner and Iranian National Reuplican Guard Eats Sunni children for food yet blame Israel for tIeir crimes against humanity. Any idiot can clearly see that Iranians could not care if innocent children die they only wish that they be innocent Jewish or Israeli children evem though Israel treats their enemies who try to kill us kindly is a mistake. If our enemies want to curse us, accuse us of genocide so they can freely murder us like they do to their own Muslim brothers I say Israel should utterely destroy these wicked murderers who turned Islam into a religion of pure hatred and Nazism and support for raping women

      • Jul 12, 2018 @ 20:17 at 20:17
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        It is the Iranian Rogue Robes that has to decide if it wants to Survive or Change as well. Israel without a doubt would suffer damage in any War with Iran in or outside of Syria, but it would still Survive None The Less.

        The Entire Middle East has been going through a massive evolution whereby all Nations are experiencing great changes not seen before after trying to destroy Israel over 70 years.

        Today, Egypt, Jordan and the Arab Coalition now have gone beyond just Tolerating Israel but Accepts and Recognizes Israel Existence and Middle East Contributions.

        This has been a Remarkable Transformation Achievement and will continue as well as prevail over Iran’s Policies in attempts to destroy Israel.

        In time, Iran will Transform and Treat Israel with the same Recognition, Respect, and Embracing because of Persian People Wisdom will Prevail within Iran over the Ayatollahs, Mullahs, and Clerics that are running out of Time, Money, and Water,

        The Middle East Region will continue to struggle with Civil Wars but that is the Pathway to maintaining the capability of upgrading cooperation to meet Future Threats by developing entirely New Policies that will continue the Termination of Hate towards other Nations. Those in Iran that Expends such Energy to and Export such Hateful Discontent will actually bring about their own Termination of Power.

        The Middle East Nations Turmoil going on now will Transform into a better Tomorrow. Iran is on it Last Stand and it is Showing more Everyday.

    • Jul 13, 2018 @ 3:13 at 3:13
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      They should stick to what they are good at, moastly flogging themselves in the streets and yelling about Allah and death

  • Jul 12, 2018 @ 20:09 at 20:09
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    Israel must defend it’s sovereign territory in the Golan and elsewhere. It must prepare for a war with Iran, because it is coming anyway, and better to start it and finish it earlier than later when the enemy is fully prepared.

    • Jul 13, 2018 @ 0:48 at 0:48
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      But do you realize that your sliver of land with 8.5 million cockroaches will get wiped out?

      • Jul 13, 2018 @ 3:03 at 3:03
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        These are fighting roaches, and they like to be alive. Not the kind that came out of your sharrmuta’s filthy cracks. According to Arab exchange rate, one of these dead roches is worth 1000 live terrorstinians.
        Better to leave them alone

    • Jul 13, 2018 @ 6:38 at 6:38
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      What better way to defend stolen land, illegally annexed, than by tag-teaming with heart-eating terrorist proxies loyal to the Saud Crime Family and alCIAda!?

      What a brilliant strategy.

      Look where it’s gotten the Occupiers of Palestine!? Rockets pointed at them in every direction, none of which they have a hope of controlling.

      A nation made paranoid by kite flyers, totally reliant on welfare checks–10 million dollars every day–doesn’t really scare anyone anymore. Especially when they do nothing but lose wars and murder medics.

  • Jul 13, 2018 @ 2:57 at 2:57
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    Again, you need to update, “dude”. “Jews cannot live in Muslim countries”?!?
    I won’t ask you to corroborate that with facts in order to avoid your humiliation

    • Jul 13, 2018 @ 6:46 at 6:46
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      Jews cannot be hired in Islamic countries … and if you are Jewish, you had better put “Christian” or anything other than Jewish when applying for a Visa. I know – as a Jewish teacher who had do just that for post in UAE. Islamic countries have evicted or killed their Jewish population except for token numbers to appease the UN and others unwilling to acknowledge the anti-Semitism of Islam. They are now religiously cleansing Christians but neither the Pope nor the other churches care.

  • Jul 13, 2018 @ 3:02 at 3:02
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    Iranians fought terrorists on the ground. It is NOT destabilizing the entire ME. By the contrary, they saved Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan, etc from Israeli backed terrorists.

    Can anyone prove the contrary with facts (not fabricated ones)?

    • Jul 13, 2018 @ 8:00 at 8:00
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      Why would Iran with a great educated population and resources and energy galore be involved in expansionism and in targeting other Muslims and especially Israel – the answer is that Islam (all factions ) is a religion of colonization, expansion and death to whomever gets in the way. People like you must slso support expansionism for Muslims because you so stupidly support that which you are so egregiously ignorant.

  • Jul 13, 2018 @ 3:04 at 3:04
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    The Zionist deception is doomed. 25 years is too much. Tic-toc

    • Jul 13, 2018 @ 7:49 at 7:49
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      What is really doomed are all the leftist dunces who are now hysterically whining and lying as their great leftist leaders get voted out of office for betraying their citizens and flooding the West with new voters they presumed would vote for more leftism – but were mistaken.

  • Jul 13, 2018 @ 3:32 at 3:32
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    Some of you are worthy of response, but many of you are just babbling idiots.

    The drone event was well executed by the IDF. Let it travel, let it show the cartaristics of a unmanned aircraft that is “ off course”. By the way, there is no such thing as an off course / unintended drone, unless the maker of the aircraft is too simplistic to have a return feature built into the software. It was not off course. It was sent to see how far it would be allowed to fly before the IDF responded. If the IDF “Coordinated” with Moscow on the event, then Assad must assume Moscow and the IDF “coordinate” on every strike into Syria. You have to wonder how that “coordination” goes over in Tehran. The future of Iranian influence in Syria is not being made in Tehran. The future of Iranian’s involvement with Syria is being made in DC and Moscow. Now, just think how that is going over with the old men in Tehran. Just what crazy Eddie event can they come up with to demonstrate to Moscow and DC they are not puppets.

    • Jul 13, 2018 @ 8:21 at 8:21
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      Silent Spione Breaking Legs News…………………………Iran ruling Elites have been damaged, and infighting threatens Iran’s continued stability. This combination of unprecedented outpouring of public anger with the ensuing infighting, which has taken place within his regime since the election. Although the demonstrations did not lead to a revolution, their consequences mean that the world and especially the middle East are no longer dealing with the same country.

      Despite repression attempts by Iranian Rulers The Russians have been quietly organizing The Tudeh Party of the Masses of Iran with a Council for coordinating of 2nd of Khordad Front Circle of Intellectuals and Technocrats. This corroboration for Z-Economics Reforms is the largest Political Party in Iran, with many activists and offices in most Persian cities and towns. It can take over and has serious Platform and Program Reforms for running a New Persia.

      The Protests are mostly from the upper and middle class population in Tehran. However, as Iran is facing an economic crisis, all kinds of people from all over the country are protesting. This diversity of people that are dissatisfied works in favor of the protesters. As more join the Protests others will join, and eventually there will be too much people for the government to handle! After all, it doesn’t take much people. As being planned by Russians and Surrogates is 1,000,000 Western Persians, Kurds in the West, and Northern Mazanderanis People went out and have been protesting. This alone would be enough to wreak havoc and bring change. Iran’s population is in excess of 85 million. The City of Tehran has 15,000,000 People and surrounding and taking that center will take all of Iran sooner now.

      The weakening Legitimacy of Ayatollah Khamenei’s Regime is on the Brink of collapse like never seen before by being seriously damaged the level of consensus by the opposition between the different factions within the regime is also unprecedented at exact wrong time for the Rogue Robes Regime. Iran’s Regime thought could have continued Enriching Uranium while enjoying Good Economic and Trade Relations with Europe. Now so fearful in fact that Khamenei is ready to alienate the Russians and the Chinese. This is despite the fact their support of Iran in the UN Security Council for many years.

      Ali Khamenei is more than ever before fearful of a rapprochement with the west and now must relies on his relations with sympathetic Muslim countries and movements such as Hamas and Hezbollah. At the same time, the Supreme Leader of Iran sees himself as God’s Representative on earth to all Shias. However it’s not the same case with the religious Shia leaders of Iraq and Lebanon. The Islamic Republic now has a Competitor from the City of Najaf in Iraq is now the most important Shia Centre in Middle East, due to the presence of Grand Ayatollah Sistani. When Khamenei tried to elevate his son Mojtaba, as the next Supreme Leader, was not recognized by Grand Ayatollah Sistani, and the time is Ripe for a Coup.

      The infighting between Mahmound Ahmadinejad disputed elections did not overthrow the Islamic Republic of Iran, but Russia is in perfect Position to make it happen. As Iran is still able to walk, but with a limp, that needs a hidden crutch to sustain the Islamic Religious Leg to keep standing up looking strong, but the Islamic Republic other Leg is Bent with a Badly Self Inflicted Wound that cannot Heal. Putin has always been able to smell out weakness like any Mother Russian Bear. Putin is in the Right Place at the Right Time to Sweep the Crutch that will make the Bent Leg fall and Hidden Religious Leg Bend bringing down support the whole body. One strong Man in The Republican Guard like Napoleon did can take over during that kind of Chaos and backed by Putin with Consent from America’s Grizzly Bear being another POTUS Trump Triumph.

      Coming sooner than anyone thinks, details being explained at Buckingham Palace about now!!!

    • Jul 13, 2018 @ 9:44 at 9:44
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      I would go further, I believe there was no drone. It was all show, they staged it to justify hitting Syrian positions. This has been going no in Gaza also, very serious what Israel are doing staging events for their own survival !!

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