MbS fingered again for the Khashoggi murder to undermine him ahead of the G20 Buenos Aires summit
After a short lull, a third wave of derogatory reports in the US, Turkey, and West Europe again put the Saudi crown prince on the hot plate for the Jamal Khashoggi murder on Oct. 2 at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul. What has catapulted this story back onto front pages after weeks of quiet? DEBKAfile’s sources offer some background:
- President Donald Trump said on Sunday, Nov. 11, that he had been briefed on the tape on which Turkey claims to have recorded the murder, but he refused to watch it: “It’s a suffering tape, It’s a terrible tape,” he said.
- Several US media subsequently reported that the CIA, after being charged by the president with investigating the crime, had concluded that it had been planned and ordered by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman MbS). The CIA itself said nothing to confirm this claim.
- Trump responded to the allegation by saying that he can’t determine from the facts put before him the degree of the crown prince’s responsibly for the murder. “But at the same time,” he added. “We do have an ally and I want to stick with an ally that in many ways has been very good.”
- On Monday, Nov. 19, a well-known Turkish columnist alleged that the quarrel between Khashoggi and the Saudi security officers holding him at the consulate, was triggered by their demand that he send a cable to his son in Saudi Arabia and he refused. He was then put to death. The columnist had no knowledge of what the alleged cable was to have said.
- On Tuesday, Nov. 20, another Turkish publication ran what it claimed were words heard on the tape in the seconds of the murder. “Release my arm! What do you think you’re doing?” Khashoggi is quoted as shouting. This was followed by the sounds of blows and torture. The next words came from a man, identified as a squad member, who said: “It feels spooky to put on the clothes of a man we killed 20 minutes ago.” He is then heard to complain that Khashoggi’s shoes were too small and is told to wear his own trainers. According to these Turkish sources, this discrepancy showed up when the dead journalist’s double was filmed on an Istanbul street after the murder.
- The “double” was named by Turkish media as Mustafa al-Madani whom they claim is close to the crown prince. All these new quotes in the Turkish media from a tape in the possession of the Turkish authorities, appeared as the backdrop for a conversation taking place then in New York in which Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu demanded that UN Secretary Antonio Guterres set up an international tribunal to probe the Saudi journalist’s murder.
- Saudi Arabia strenuously denies all the Turkish allegations and claims that a team sent to Istanbul to extract Khashoggi, went rogue and killed him. There have been 21 Saudi arrests in connection with the crime, of whom 5 were sentenced to death and 11 given prison sentences. The entire team acted on their own initiative, says Riyadh, while Prince Mohammed was not involved and was in total ignorance of what was happening at the Istanbul consulate.
The new rash of publications on the Khashoggi affair reflects a fresh, coordinated effort to unseat the crown prince, say DEBKAfile’s sources who point at four motives:
- Certain Washington circles are determined to impair the strong relationship prevailing between the Trump administration and Saudi King Salman and his son. Those circles have long sought to weaken the king, but since Donald Trump entered the White House, they view MbS’s ouster that much more desirable for the collateral gain of getting at the president and his family through that relationship. The crown prince’s eclipse would gain two further advantages in the eyes of those circles: It would seriously jeopardize Trump’s anti-Iran campaign and also his projected Israeli-Palestinian peace plan which is contingent on the cooperation of Saudi Arabia, Egypt, the UAE and Israel.
- A number of interested parties, political, financial and members of the world oil community, look with extreme disfavor on the two crown princes, MbS and Sheikh Mohammed Bin Ziyad (MbZ) of the United Arab Emirates, running the show in the Gulf as a joint powerhouse. Knocking not just one of the princes off this high perch – but both – is their goal. Turkey therefore planted a second tale in its tame media, which sought to blacken MbZ as MbS’ accomplice in the Khashoggi crime’s cover-up. This story alleged that the Emirates assigned this task to a team of four. One was named by the Turkish media as the exiled Palestinian Muhammed Dahlan, who is reputedly a close friend of MbZ. The Emirates foreign minister categorically denied his tale.
- Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan can’t let go of his burning desire to thrust the two crown princes aside and out of his way to the leadership of the Sunni Muslim world.
- The Saudi crown prince has announced he will attend the G20 summit in Buenos Aires on 26-30 November. He hopes that the sight of him hobnobbing with world leaders as their equal (including Erdogan), and shaking their hands in front of flashing cameras will repair the damage to his reputation cast by aspersions over the Khashoggi affair and give him a solid footing on the world stage. The new flood of pejorative reports hitting the media in the last few days aims at snatching this opportunity out of his hands by making him an international persona non grata.
23 thoughts on “MbS fingered again for the Khashoggi murder to undermine him ahead of the G20 Buenos Aires summit”
This guy is a psycho, how can Israel rely on him? Don’t trust any Arabic leader, let them fight each other. Israel shouldn’t stick up to any one of them. Let the Sunni and Shia muslims fight each other till their last man. Don’t involve jewish people in their stupid quarrel. I’ve never thought in my life that one day jewish newspapers will defend an Arabic leader. Sunni or Shia muslims are the same, their Coran teach them to kill all jews, did you forget this? Once the muslims will finish killing each others, they will turn their weapons against the jews. F**k MBS, F**k them all
Any new chaos element is good for silently driving the equilibrium the way we want to walk.
No more “F**k them all” talk, what’s really important is “Drive them all” action.
Follow the money
Israel has to choose between supporting a few of them or fighting all of them. Duh
It is now time for Russian Jews to return to their motherland and forsake the unholy land. The foreign occupation of the desert wasteland is a failed experiment. The sliver of land called Israel is no real home for the proud Russian living under death threat of nazi American regime piling arms to the Arab terrorists on all sides. Only Russia is the defender of its lost sheep in the unholy land. Return to the Motherland and join your brothers fighting global nazi terrorism.
repatriation to saudi arabia and siria all the so called ”palestinians” who invaded israel is necessary
Russia Putin has been accused of number atrocities so doubtful anyone returning will have a life of freedom. Saudi Arabia has many problems so long as the Royal Family Absolute Monarchs Rule just like Iran has problems with Ayatollah Absolute Shia Rule. The Middle East needs to adopt and adapt to becoming Full Democracies for their own People and History!
Don’t let your tin foil hat fall into your bowl of borscht.
Trudeau is one of the authors and will sign the global immigration agreement horror in which all people have rights to invade your country and with the UN calling the shots for feckless countries which have been castrated by leftists. So maybe Trudeau and Canadians will be ordered by global elites to take in 2 million Terrorstinians and give them homes, jobs and generous benefits that citizens of Canada do not receive.
Every leftist in Israel is a psycho and working very hard to destroy the country.
For leftists Israel will be leftist (and disappear by policy) or it will be nothing, fail and be destroyed.
Since Israel doesn’t seem to want to vote leftist then the traitorous leftist 5th column is working very hard to make sure Israel self-destroys and this includes all of the IDF’s leftist political commissars making sure the IDF are ineffective and fail. And they are failing.
MbS is probably much less of a psycho than your average Israeli leftist. And much less dangerous to Israel than your average Israeli leftist. And not because he has any sympathy for Israel but because he knows about survival.
The CIA is just another in a long list of leftist weaponized American organizations working very hard for leftism. As are also the FBI, the IRS, the State Department and the list goes on.
We are in a war to the death between freedom and leftists.
Leftists want planet Earth with one ant-hill society, one hive mind and One World Government.
eurabia is an example of this and committing suicide by pisslim.
Should they succeed not only will freedom be extinguished but this OWG will have no place for Jews and Israel on this planet.
You are unfotunately quite right, i’m afraid… But, to paraphrase Leonard Cohen, there’s a crack in every plan, that’s how the Light gets in !
Leftist is bad side, or BD
Extreme leftist is bad dumb side, or BDS.
From extreme leftist to terrorist there is only one small step.
Motive #5. The Crown Prince is an asshole.
What MbS is, is somebody who has the same enemy as us: iran.
Let’s try to make the best of it, shall we?
Khashoggi was a pisslim brotherhood vermin operative disguised as a journalist.
He won’t be missed by anybody decent.
The only Saudi mistake was not to do it inconspicuously. They have a lot to learn. They are a little provincial and used to their feudal ways. The world is not Saudi Arabia. They can learn.
Their mistake was not in his execution but in giving their enemies a martyr.
All leftists and iran supporters are picking this up and carrying it as a weapon.
They couldn’t care less about the dead “journalist” He’s just a stone to throw at their enemies.
Lots of decent but naïve people don’t understand this war is quite medieval.
We are facing an heterodox planetary alliance of filthy freedom haters and collectivist.
For instance, it is hard to fathom feminazis, homonazis, Soros, Rockefellers, Rothschilds and pisslims working together for the same goal when the pisslims will kill all of the others as soon as it is convenient for them.
But for the time being they hate the same enemy: Western civilization and freedom and decency and this includes Israel.
There is no decency in our enemies. There is no “democracy” in them unless it serves them to gain power in their ratcheting march towards collectivism..
There is no civility in them. When they pretend to abide by civilized rules is just to have a better chance at defeating us.
They are ghosts out of the Dark Ages.
Anybody pretending to care about this Khashoggi vermin is in the same wagon as all haters of the West and freedom and decency.
I say kudos to MbS for making the world cleaner, next time make it look like an accident and let nothing point to you.
And learn to recognize the SJW NPC collectivist or pro-pisslim brotherhood vermin in everyone who bleats about Khashoggi. And may his soul burn in Hell.
You crack me up Jorge_Banner: according to you; Soros who is jewish, the Rotshilds who are jewish……. All those folks are enemies? At the same time you are telling us this fucking muslim MBS is fine? It is ridiculous, it is absurd. Let me remind you, these Wahabi Saudis, are the ones who created AL QAEDA and ISIS, GO to Saudi Arabia and pretend you are a jew, you gonna be whacked faster than you can imagine. If Israel should fight against Iran, well then it needs just to do it with the western allies, believe me when it will come to a war, Iran will destroy Saudi Arabia in 2 hours, Trump said it because he knows the balance of Power, Saudis are bedouins, silly people, you cant rely on them, the ve never won a war, they can’t even succeed against some few Houthi fighters from Yemen. Believe me Iran does have the capacity to invade the golf countries in 2 hours time. Persians have invented the chess game, Arabs are snitches and suckups, you cant rely on them.
All this Khashoggi business is merely garden variety Islamic intrigues that have been going on since the alleged prophet taught them how. Nerdogood (or is it Erdogan ? ) apparently thinks he can be the moral model for Moslems as well as revive the Ottoman empire ! This will necessitate him throwing both the Shitites and Ruskies out of Syria. These people are insane so stay tuned for another exciting episode !
Ha ha ha, best Bebka headline ever!!!!
“MbS fingered again”
Some would say its a common practice
We are not gays!
Saudi Arabia being bombarding civilians in Yemen for more than few years now killing all sorts of people; children and women included but no body in the west opened his big mouth to condemn Saudi Arabia and even selling Saudi Arabia the bombs that killed those civilians ….. But when an extremist is killed by his regime everybody start crying “murder”…………. The whole of the free world is full of ….. seems extremists in Turkey, Hamas and the rest of their coalition know how to ride the free world as donkeys……….. to me it is a war between “predators” and “Aliens” why should i care? as a human being….. why should the murder of a religious supremacist like Mr. Khashoggi trouble me, i know what he stands for……. or stood for
Nous ne sommes pas Khashoggi Woggi.
Bin Stupid under mines himself. His daddy has to come along to change his diapers regularly it seems.
If Trump said he didn’t watch the tape or listen to it, because, “it’s a terrible tape,” how can we trust a man that doesn’t have the stomach to live in the world everyone else lives in?
He lost my support the second he fired the first round (sic) of obsolete, barely competent subsonic cruise missiles into Syria under the pretext of a later proven false flag. Forget about the second or third time, I stopped watching or caring.
I care about being grouped in with you guys, that the whole world wants dead, because after Israel becomes glass, they will come for me too. I didn’t deserve this animus, because I didn’t do anything, nor did my ancestry do anything to deserve this blood hatred.
I don’t get how Israelis don’t see they are no different than those killed in WWII, to get them to go to Israel (https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/the-balfour-declaration Balfour Declaration, etc.,) and not realize they are about to be slaughtered by the millions again for the machinations of others, and by other jews!(they don’t think you guys are “jewish” enough).
Enjoy the time left, and party like it’s your last day, I am. I’m still trying to decide if I should go for the Daniel Pearl head cut off with a dull knife, or the drowning in the cage route. I don’t like my choices.
Tyvm for putting me in this position.
What is “MbS” ? Is it being “fingered” in the ass or vagina? Who is “fingering” it?
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