Moscow: The Su-57 fighters are not for active combat in Syria
Russian military officials and media published a message of reassurance Monday regarding the mission of the Su-57 stealth fighters, after four of them were deployed to Syria. The Su-57 fighter jets are “not to be engaged in active combat,” they reported, adding that they were deployed in Syria to “test radar systems and electronic warfare capabilities.”
haha. soon they will be engaged in combat. with U.S. F-22s blowing them out of the sky. and with Israeli F-15s blowing them up from a distance using Python missiles with the Slavic stealth fighters being painted hopefully painted from a distance by IAF elint aircraft.
the main thing is not to become a collateral damage when they begin to test their weapons on each other
Rafael Python in intense close battles can lead to the defeat of allied F-22s with Israeli F-15s
Totally incorrect,
patriot : “In advertising brochures it is presented as a “revolutionary missile with a full-sphere zone of defeat” [1], implying high maneuverability up to the possibility of changing the direction of flight to the opposite (most likely due to gas dynamic control, as on R-73) and locking the target after a lock-on-after launch (LOAL)) that in intense close battles can lead to the defeat of allied aircraft)” Rafael Python 5 in Wikipedia of russian. Why “totally” ?
The IAF has a great record and is well trained. They are also smart enough not to make arrogant remarks like yours. Never underestimate a potential adversary. Even better is to avoid making a potential adversary a real one. The Russians have very effective military technology.
I certainly have no idea at all on how US stealth planes would perform against the Ruski’s latest versions. I expect you do not either. It is also quite possible that neither does the USAF, the IAF, nor the Russian AF. It would be best really if we do not find out in battle.
The Ruskis certainly have interests that do not now fit well with some of the US and Israeli interests. Yet, their main long term interests may be consistent with our main interests. We may be able to accommodate Russian naval bases in Syria and we may have common interests in suppressing ISIS. The Ruskis may not be married to Assad as long as they keep their bases. Also Iranian hegemony across Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon may not be their long term interest, even if it for now fits with their desire to support Assad.
For now, it should be in the US, Russian and Israeli interest to avoid direct hostile interactions. The Russian explanation may also be true. They may want to be close to US and Israeli installations to test as much as possible their ability to interact with electronic measures and countermeasures. Strangely, the US and Israel may also welcome this to secretly evaluate their own systems–all without actual combat.
Of course, actual combat is a more realistic test, but one that will hopefully be avoided.
Bingo.
Wow, it is like “we are producing handguns and bullets but they are for decoration purposes only”
To test radar systems:
The Russians supplied anti aircraft missiles so why they want to test the stealth capabilities in Syria while they can also test at home.
But maybe, Israel is able to get a signature of the Russian planes, but please use passive radar!
One more toy to play with. But the killing will go on anyway.
Never in military history has a weapon, any weapon been created, that was not subsequently put to actual use, sooner or later ! That is true even about nuclear weapons – repeat: sooner or later !
Obviously Putin will use the SU-57 only if it is safe for him to use it. As alluded above, for now all 3 air forces will conduct Electronic Warfare over Syria and Lebanon. The one who wins the EW reconnaissance battles will lose in real combat because he will have shown his best capabilities. I would draw the SU-57 into real combat by losing the EW battles.
Putin as a former KGB officer was well trained in various arts except in actual military combat. The KGB had a “political officer” in each company (90 soldiers) of the Soviet Army. The “political officer” through recruited informers was watching the personal (including the company CO) because the KGB/Communist party never trusted the Army. Putin continues the Soviet mistrust of the army by having his own 30,000 strong National Guard equipped with tanks and airplanes to be used against the population of Russia inside the country. Separate Muslim units are to be used against the Slavs and vice versa. Now days Russian Orthodox priests have taken the role of the former “political officers” in the Russian Army. Putin well remembers Bilenko who defected on his MIG-25 for a CIA “inspection” in Japan. If the SU-57 were ready for combat they would have arrived into Syria clandestinely as “the secret weapon” and not for a next stage of the planes’ EW development.
moving the su-57 into syria is a good strategic move. symbolically, it counters the american use of the f-22, and boosts the morale of the pro-assad forces. it also provides an opportunity for “real world” testing of the plane, as well as a marketing opportunity for export sales. hopefully, it will also deter the turks, at least for a while.
TSvi
Wise comments yet Russia and USA have mega $’s involved, must know who has the better prospect in battle. IAF pilots have edge with training and nationalistic motives to defend Israel, on its home grounds.