New pro-Israeli Saudi peace plan – NYT

The New York Times reported Monday that Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman presented a plan to Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas that would be more tilted toward the Israelis than any ever embraced by the American government The Palestinians would get a state – but only on noncontiguous parts of the West Bank and only limited sovereignty over their own territory. The vast majority of Israeli settlements in the West Bank would remain. The Palestinians would not be given East Jerusalem as their capital, only Abu Dis, and there would be no right of return for Palestinian refugees and their descendants. The White House and Saudi government before denied owning this plan, but it has gained enough currency in the Middle East to deeply alarm the Palestinians.

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25 thoughts on “New pro-Israeli Saudi peace plan – NYT

  • Dec 4, 2017 @ 13:27 at 13:27
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    It all started at midnight on 15 May 1948 with Shaitan stirring the shit in the hearts and minds of the poor arab nation. But, in less than a month all arab people still alive turned hands up and bitter sick.

    And Allah said upon “Fukem, let Jerusalem be forever in jewish hands!”. However, there is no sura verse to teach about who is this Fukem gentleman.

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  • Dec 4, 2017 @ 14:10 at 14:10
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    Allah willing, the great Abu Mazen will have strong willing and reject such insulting camel poo plan!
    Infidel president Trump is on his way out, impeachment is falling soon on his head, the Arab world will be soon freed of him. Why compromise then?
    Let’s screw them once more with endless discussion while waiting for Hillary. In the mean time would be good to stock donations and be ready, for her fundations funds are desert dry and madame very thirsty.

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    • Dec 4, 2017 @ 15:35 at 15:35
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      all of the land, and all of jerusalem belong to God. Period. God bless the jewish people

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  • Dec 4, 2017 @ 17:25 at 17:25
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    50 years of too much palestinian BS have passed. No more!

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  • Dec 4, 2017 @ 18:28 at 18:28
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    The Palestinians want their own country. There’s just one thing about that: There are no Palestinians. It’s a made up word. Israel was called Palestine for two thousand years. Like “Wiccan,” “Palestinian” sounds ancient but is really a modern invention. Before the Israelis won the land in war, Gaza was owned by Egypt, and there were no “Palestinians” then, and the West Bank was owned by Jordan, and there were no “Palestinians” then. As soon as the Jews took over and started growing oranges as big as basketballs, what do you know, say hello to the “Palestinians,” weeping for their deep bond with their lost “land” and “nation.” So for the sake of honesty, let’s not use the word “Palestinian” any more to describe these delightful folks, who dance for joy at our deaths until someone points out they’re being taped. Instead, let’s call them what they are: “Other Arabs From The Same General Area Who Are In Deep Denial About Never Being Able To Accomplish Anything In Life And Would Rather Wrap Themselves In The Seductive Melodrama Of Eternal Struggle And Death.” I know that’s a bit unwieldy to expect to see on CNN. How about this, then: “Adjacent Jew-Haters.”

    Okay, so the Adjacent Jew-Haters want their own country. No, they don’t. They could’ve had their own country any time in the last forty years, especially at Camp David. But if you have your own country, you have to have traffic lights and garbage trucks and Chambers of Commerce, and, worse, you actually have to figure out some way to make a living. That’s no fun. No, they want what all the other Jew-Haters in the region want: Israel. They also want a big pile of dead Jews, of course–that’s where the real fun is–but mostly they want Israel. Why? For one thing, trying to destroy Israel–or “The Zionist Entity” as their textbooks call it–for the last sixty years has allowed the rulers of Arab countries to divert the attention of their own people away from the fact that they’re the blue-ribbon most illiterate, poorest, and tribally backward on God’s Earth, and if you’ve ever been around God’s Earth, you know that’s really saying something. It makes me roll my eyes every time one of our pundits waxes poetic about the great history and culture of the Muslim Mideast.

    Chew this around and spit it out: Six hundred million Arabs; Six million Jews. Think of all the Arab countries as a football field, and Israel as a pack of matches sitting in the middle of it. And now these same folks swear that if Israel gives them half of that pack of matches, everyone will be pals. Really? Wow, what neat news. Hey, but what about the string of wars to obliterate the tiny country and the constant din of rabid blood oaths to drive every Jew into the sea? Oh, that? We were just kidding.
    Just reverse the numbers. Imagine five hundred million Jews and five million Arabs. I was stunned at the simple brilliance of it. Can anyone picture the Jews strapping belts of razor blades and dynamite to themselves? Of course not. Or marshalling every fiber and force at their disposal for generations to drive a tiny Arab state into the sea? Nonsense. Or dancing for joy at the murder of innocents? Impossible. Or spreading and believing horrible lies about the Arabs baking their bread with the blood of children? Disgusting. No, as you know, left to themselves in a world of peace, the worst Jews would ever do to people is debate them to death.

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    • Dec 4, 2017 @ 20:53 at 20:53
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      actually there WAS a group called the Palestinians before the current ones. The Jews of Palestine. My uncle’s passport shows him as being born in 1937 an Israeli city with the country listed as Palestine. The Arabs who lived here still referred to themselves as Jordanian or Ottoman or whatever countries they migrated here from. They only decided to call themselves Palestinians when Jews moved over to calling themselves Israelis post-state.

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    • Dec 5, 2017 @ 11:45 at 11:45
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      Brilliant sum up !!! totally agree here been saying that for a while now…..no Arab country is run properly…only functions as a dictatorship…ence the Pal leaders do not want to leave their comfy jobs…and get to work…they need the status quo…

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  • Dec 4, 2017 @ 23:00 at 23:00
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    What a surprise that the Ethnic Cleansing antisemitic zealots and find their BFF in Saud head chopper.

    Lots of sex going on when fatboy Avigdor meets finds the camel to match his 12 year old hottie!

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  • Dec 5, 2017 @ 1:56 at 1:56
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    LOL

    That is NOT a state.

    That is “Bantustans” where the guards do what they want to the prisoners.

    As they do currently.

    An Apartheid state in Actuality where the Soldiers consider the prisoners to be Savages, Wild Animals or Untermenshen. . .

    Well done zionism.

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  • Dec 5, 2017 @ 11:09 at 11:09
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    The only peace plan worth implementing is the Shumtrich/Zehut peace plan:

    1. Arabs can be paid to leave
    2. Those that wish to live under Israel can stay with limited voting rights
    3. Those that wish to fight, can fight

    This is the only plan that will work.

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