Nuclear Iran, ME peace and US troops in Syria aired in Trump-Netanyahu talks
President Donald Trump and the first lady received Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and his wife Sarah at the White House Monday, March 5, with exceptional warmth and a full agenda.
The two leaders quickly got down to business on three issues:
- Representatives of the US administration and leading European governments are scheduled to meet in Berlin on March 15 to compare notes on the changes required in the 2015 nuclear accord with Iran to avoid an American walkout.
Some European leaders, led by French President Emmanuel Macron, have undertaken to try and persuade the government in Tehran to agree to placing limitations on its ballistic missile program as a means of avoiding pressure to change the nuclear accord. Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian is currently in Tehran on this mission, Macron also personally tackled President Hassan Rouhani in an effort to downscale Iranian military intervention in Syria and Yemen. However, Tehran made it clear in a statement on Sunday that it rejects any interference in its regional activities. - The peace plan for Israel and the Palestinians, which President Trump is still holding up his sleeve. The president reiterated in reply to reporters’ questions that having recognized Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, he has removed a thorny issue and made the negotiations easier. Asked what happens if the Palestinians refuse to come to the table, he rapped out: “Then there’ll be no peace.”
DEBKAfile’s sources report that Netanyahu advised the president to hold back on unveiling his peace plan since, as matters stand at present, the Palestinians are almost sure to reject it, so why take the chance. Trump replied that he will take this under consideration. - This item is perhaps the weightiest of all to be raised in the Trump-Netanyahu talks: The US military presence in Syria at points east of the River Euphrates up to the Iraqi border and in the Kurdish regions in the north. Netanyahu believes that Israel could have no better US guarantee for preventing Iran taking up a permanent military presence in Syria. The Israeli prime minister therefore asked the president not only to keep US forces in Syria, but if possible to bolster them to compensate for the Kurdish YPG militiamen heading out of their cantons to support their countrymen in battle against the Turkish invaders of Afrin. On Monday, US operations against ISIS in eastern Syria were halted for that reason.
There is no information as yet on how President Trump responded to the Israeli appeal.
The E. Barak, E. Olmert, M. Yaalon and other envious, bitter hate-filled crowd – Eat Your f*$^ing hearts out !
Bibi IS a true, indispensable leader of the Jewish state today !
Say thank you to President Trump for that, not to all the ‘sad’ ‘alfabet’agencies. May Gd shield and protect him. If he wants to he can get the support of the NaNach movement and other real Jews by being the real Israel that he is and making good on the promise Gd requested before we ever left Egypt. (The bones were taken out by Moses himself, not the tribes). King David was NOT a Jew, the first Jew (who was from Benjamin) is Mordecai. What makes a Jew or a Gentile (Israel) is not simply a matter of following religious law.
WOW….don’t know if I agree…but I like the way you think!
100% agree with you, Yosef!!!
The Israeli government demand that the Palestinians recognize Israel as a Jewish state is the single most difficult issue facing the current round of peace talks. It would be dangerous to recognize Israel because this would mean their acceptance of the dissolution of their own history and ties and their historic right to Palestine. One of the crucial pieces to the Palestinian narrative is that they (Palestinians) were present in the Holy Land before the Jews, and because of this, have a greater moral authority and right to the territory as part of a future independent Palestinian state. Supporters of the Palestinian position often compare the Palestinians to “indigenous” peoples like Native Americans and call Israel a “colonizer.” There are more than a few problems with the Palestinian narrative.
The modern media is filled with stories about the Palestinians, their plight, their dilemmas and their struggles. All aspects of their lives seem to have been put under the microscope. Only one question never seems to be addressed: Who are the Palestinians? Who are these people who claim the Holy Land as their own? What is their history? Where did they come from? How did they arrive in the country they call Palestine? If the Palestinians are as ancient a people as they claim to be, then we’ll find copious amounts of evidence of that in various works of history, won’t we? (Just like we find lots of history about the ancient Romans, Greeks, Albanians, Mygars, Bulgars, Egyptians, and a whole host of others).
But here’s where it gets interesting, because as it turns out, the “ancient” Palestinian people are elusive indeed. In fact, they’re so completely elusive that at some point, when pouring over the historical record and finding exactly nothing…no mention of them at all in ancient times, you have to begin to ask yourself why that is. The general impression given by most in the media is that Palestinians were established in the Holy Land for hundreds, if not thousands of years. Yet curiously, when it comes to giving the history of this ancient people most news outlets find it harder to go back more than the early nineteen hundreds. Some examples:
– CNN, an agency which has devoted countless hours of airtime to the “plight” of the Palestinians, has a website which features a special section on the Middle East conflict called “Struggle For Peace”. It includes a promising sounding section entitled “Lands Through The Ages” which assures us it will detail the history of the region using maps. Strangely, it turns out, the maps displayed start no earlier than the ancient date of 1917.
– The CBS News website has a background section called “A Struggle For Middle East Peace.” Its history timeline starts no earlier than 1897.
– The NBC News background section called “Searching for Peace” has a timeline which starts in 1916. – BBC’s timeline starts in 1948.
Go to the website belonging to the Palestinian National Authority to find out about the ancient Palestinians? After you wade through several pages bemoaning the “Israeli occupation” and “Israeli human rights violations,” you find yourself wondering where the history is, and you will find a little, some of it even dating back to the early 1900’s, but it would be a bit of a stretch to call this “ancient,” no matter how much you torture the definition of the word.
So it begs the question: If the Palestinians are indeed a myth, then the real question becomes “Why?” Why invent a fictitious people? The answer is that the myth of the Palestinian People serves as the justification for Arab occupation of the Land of Israel.
Agree with your comments. The palestinian invention is just also part and parcel of islam’s ongoing, centuries-old jihad against the West. muslims have spread their terror to all points, and there is no convenient excuse waiting of an “occupation”, an “apartheid” and a fake claim of “genocide” – where the muslim population has actually grown significantly.
May I add to both of your fine comments: The “falastyn” nation is a never-existed myth, invented by the powerful K.G.B. dis-information machine and the late M.E. expert, General Yevgeni Primakov,
following the 1967, Six Days War. It was meant to perpetuate the Jewish-Arab conflict in the Middle East – and it seems to have succeeded, very well indeed.
All Correct. Explained in this book
“Phantom Nation: Inventing the “Palestinians” as the Obstacle to Peace”
https://www.amazon.com/Phantom-Nation-Inventing-Palestinians-Obstacle-ebook/dp/B00EVAEW3Q
Or from PLO co-founder Zuheir Mohsen
”
The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.
” – reported by James Dorsey, “Wij zijn alleen Palestijn om politieke reden”, Trouw, 31 March 1977.
The root of the problem is the Islamic Doctrine of Abrogation coupled with hadith Sahih Muslim 6985 and Koran 9:29. which replace all sentiments of tolerance with commands to exterminate all Jews everywhere (not just in Israel) and then subjugate the entire World under Sharia. This is the “Why” they are working toward, one step at a time.
why anyone needs to be recognized at all ???? As a state or human beings ????
Only degenerates would demand to be recognized i, e; Israelis are not being recognized and demand to be recognized … Degenerates at large cannot understand , that nobody wants to recognize them as a state or even as human beings . Whats the result of such infertility? –Jews are not human beings according to themselves –trying to be recognized as such . Why not to change a bit , and be recognized as thieves , and to demand to be recognized as thieves –total world wide acceptance guaranteed …
“why anyone needs to be recognized at all ???? As a state or human beings ????
Only degenerates would demand to be recognized i, e; Israelis are not being recognized and demand to be recognized … Degenerates at large cannot understand , that nobody wants to recognize them as a state or even as human beings . Whats the result of such infertility? –Jews are not human beings according to themselves –trying to be recognized as such . Why not to change a bit , and be recognized as thieves , and to demand to be recognized as thieves –total world wide acceptance guaranteed …”
@solomeo,
I would suggest, solomeo, that you review your own post very carefully as it just doesn’t make any sense at all. Aren’t those calling themselves Palestinians demanding to be “recognized”, as you put it? You didn’t mention that in your post. Your anti-Semitism is also clearly showing in your post.
On one of your previous posts on another Debka article, you mentioned a person whom I referred to as the Rabbi Jesus when I responded to you. Since this person was Jewish and living in the very land which the Jewish people have had their homeland in for well over 3000 years, just where is your logic in calling them “thieves”, unless, of course, you were referring to those who today conveniently call themselves “Palestinians”.
@jrcowboy49,
That was likely the best post ever placed on Debka since they started allowing all of us to comment on their site (not to downgrade any other posters, many of which are also excellent, but yours really brought the fine points out as clear as they could be)!
A series of questions you asked in your post is quoted below:
” Only one question never seems to be addressed: Who are the Palestinians? Who are these people who claim the Holy Land as their own? What is their history? Where did they come from? How did they arrive in the country they call Palestine?”
The answers are as follows:
The Palestinians are Arabs who are totally indistinguishable from all other Arabs in the region. Their family clans came from places throughout the Middle East including Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and the Gulf States among others. They share the same history as their fellow Arabs. They came to Israel as a result of the Muslim conquests of the entire region.
Just to note:
The former leader of the “Palestinian cause”, Yasser Arafat, was actually born in Egypt, not Jerusalem as France has incorrectly claimed, so he was actually an Egyptian!
Note also that the people who lived in Gaza prior to June 1967 were known as “Egyptians” and later were referred to as “Palestinians”.
The people who lived in the so-called “West Bank” prior to June 1967 were known as “Jordanians” and later were also referred to as “Palestinians”.
The land of Israel has belonged to the Jewish people for well over 3000 years, long before the Romans renamed it “Palestine” after the Jewish revolts against Rome.
Note that any Jewish people who managed to remain living there and who survived being either slaughtered or forcibly expelled by the Romans were known as “Palestinians”, a term which stuck until 1948.
Again, thank you for your excellent post and hope you will continue posting on this site.
One thing is for sure – if the Europeans become involved it is because they want to advance the Terrorstinian narrative and to give them the advantage when it comes to tearing apart Israel and giving it away to Islamists so that France and others can assuage and impress the Islamists (so they will vote for the leftist-Islamist factions) currently being fast-tracked into the EU and reaching 10% in some countries.
Yes, the EU cannot be called upon to broker talks or offer anything worthwhile. In fact, their involvement would be a hindrance. They collectively have always sided with islamic terror and have never shown an even hand, and now they have flooded their countries with muslims, they are even less likely to.
Jrcowboy- excellent write up!!! You nailed it!!!
The analysis is indeed good but it typically overlooks the underlying reason that a non-people like the Palestinians have suddenly become a “people” claiming everything and anything that belongs to Israel.
And the true reason was -again typically- revealed by the word of God 3,500 years ago.
Israel rejects her God and turns to them which be no gods thus provoking him to jealousy, so God made up a people which isn’t a people -the Palestinians- to move Israel to jealousy. Observe what Moses wrote and how Paul quoted him 1,500 years later:
Deuteronomy 32:20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.
Deu 32:21 They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and i will move them to jealousy with THEM WHICH ARE NOT A PEOPLE; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.
Romans 10:19 But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by THEM THAT ARE NO PEOPLE, and by a foolish nation I will anger you.
Read the Tanakh!
Now let’s hear it from the ignorant Bible-rejectors…
@Hiram,
It’s interesting how things appear when quoted out of context———————
If the reported provisions of the plan are true, the Trump Administration’s “deal of the century” would be the “disaster of the century.” President Trump’s reputation as Israel’s greatest friend would be destroyed.
The reported plan amounts to Israel giving up tangible land and sovereignty in return for empty promises, and entails the establishment of a terror regime in Israel’s heartland. Worse there is no way such a state could be demilitarized. No sovereign state has previously either agreed to, or been successfully compelled to, demilitarize; nor could this be enforced, even if Palestinian demilitarization were an explicit term in any peace settlement.
There will NEVER be a “paleswine” on the West Bank of the Jordan.
MAYBE one on the East Bank of the Jordan – if King Abdullah will allow it, or….
establish a “paleswine” in some part of Eurabia, like Scotland, Sweden, Norway, Iceland or Pootins vast Russia.
“MAYBE one on the East Bank of the Jordan – if King Abdullah will allow it, or….”
Note that his wife, the Queen of Jordan, is a Palestinian—————–
Mossad and CIA need an action plan to Poison the FAGATOLLAH somehow. Either to wipe Poison on the tips of his favorite Camels schlongs or Poison his bottles of fermented Camel prick juice that he keeps hidden. Failing that they must kidnap or kill all the Camels in the region. This will let the Mudslimes know we’re not playing around. The Donald Is just the man to take charge of this problem.
Netanyahu is a Jew. Trump and his son-in-law work for us, just like Putin whose mother was a Jew. They are all friends who work together.
Did Putin ever attack Israelis or Americans when they bombed and killed Russian (goyim i.e. filthy animals or cattle) fighters?
Never.
Putin will never fight against Israel to protect the lives of animals, be they Iranians or Russians.
Russian arms are just more merchandise we can sell to make money off of. We own and control the Russian central bank hence the entire Russian economy. Russia presents no threat to Jewish lives nor Jewish supremacy. On the contrary, Putin is our willful servant.
God=Israel
Don’t be afraid to say it anymore.