Russia to Israel: We will defend you if Iran attacks, but also defend Iran’s presence in Syria
“If Iran attacks Israel, Russia will stand alongside the US to defend Israel,” said Russian ambassador to Israel Alexander Shein at the Munich security conference last week – in a mixed message from Moscow. This assurance is part of the effort Moscow has been making for some time to allay Israel’s concerns and stop the Netanyahu government from agitating against the peril posed by an Iranian military presence in Syria. The Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu carried this message when he paid an unprecedented visit to Jerusalem last October.
DEBKAfile’s sources note, however, that since the Kremlin is broadcasting contradictory messages, Israel’s concerns are far from being allayed. One the one hand, the Russians, knowing they can’t alter Tehran’s implacable aspiration to “wipe Israel off the map,” are promising to defend the Jewish State and even line up with the United States for this purpose. But on the other, Russian policy-makers seem to believe that Israel ought to be satisfied with their guarantee of safety and understand that it has nothing to fear from the Iranian military sitting permanently in its Syrian back yard. That being so, Israel has no reasonable cause to attack Iranian targets in Syria. Therefore, Iran’s Revolutionary Guards Corps may continue to establish bases under their command in Syria.
Moscow’s affirmation of the Iranian presence in Syria as a fact of life is also intended to reach Washington. If Iranian military bases in Syria are no threat to Israel, because of Moscow’s guarantee, neither should it concern the United States.
Our sources report that Moscow like Tehran are gravely concerned by the Trump administration’s deployment of more than 2,500 Marines to maintain US control of a defense line on the 1,320 km long Syrian borders with Iraq, Jordan and Turkey. The line stretches north from the Syrian-Iraqi-Jordanian border intersection along the Iraqi border in the east (1,000km) and turns round at Hasakah and Manbij to run parallel to northern Syria’s border with Turkey (320km). This American line blocks the passage for pro-Iranian Iraqi Shiite forces to be moved into Syria. It also severs the land corridor coveted by Iran for linking Tehran via Iraq to Syria and Lebanon.
The Russians and Iranians are determined not to let the US get away with its plans to maintain control of eastern Syria while sitting on the Iraqi border to disrupt Iranian influence in Baghdad, ahead of Iraq’s coming elections. Ali Velayati, senor strategic adviser to supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said bluntly: “The Islamic resistance must prevent the deployment of US forces east of the Euphrates into Iraq.”
Iran and its Russian and Syrian allies tried to break through the American line on Feb 7, and were repelled. Certain that this attempt will be repeated, Moscow last week deployed a strong deterrent: four elite Russian Su-57 stealth fighters are now in place at the Khmeimim air base in Latakia. A Russian aerial shield is therefore ready to defend Iranian operations in Syria, capable of taking on the stealth aircraft wielded by the US – the F-22 Raptors and the Israeli Air Force’s F-35. Iran can continue to expand its military presence into Syria under Russian protection..
This is just a Russian ruse to buy time for Iran to take over Syria with Russian help. Israel should demand the implementation of UN 1701 regarding Hezbollah, if it is going to agree to something. Notice how it says that Russia will protect Israel if Iran attacks Israel. However, it will be Iran’s Shiite militia proxies that attack Israel instead of Iran directly. Since Israel has been attacking Iran directly in Syria, Iran does not like it at all. This all shows that Iran is paying Russia billions for it being in Syria to help Iran. Russia is hired by Iran to work for Iran.
No you can not hire russia. Russia saw that the west are traitors and elite whores who wants to transfer russia to the biggest brothel in the world. But russia said stop you are the elite whores in the world so better we fuck you up before you even dream to fuck up with us. So sorry russia just taught the west about history who is the real winner. From my point of view the west deserved all that and worse because they play like bitches. Israel is the first to start to understand this and than the rest of the world. Do not mess up with russia that it baby. Easy like that. It just about the balance in the world. Israel behaved like big bro and russia said your little bro and show manners and play aline otherwise I will give a slap and thats enough not more needed for you. The west they understand slowly who is the new sherrif in town you have to show respect. Play chicken with russians what morons they are. More and more countries will align with russia. And Russia will take it s place again in the world as a superpower that history and history repeat itself. SO it s wrong that iran has hired russia, no way baby.
Russia already is the biggest brothel in the world, there’s no need for the west to make it even worse.
Truly moronic post – by an idiot for fellow idiots !
“More and more countries will align with russia. And Russia will take it s place again in the world as a superpower that history and history repeat itself.”
@freedom,
To all concerned: Just to note, those who “align with Russia” sooner or later end up getting absorbed by Russia so beware!
Russia was invited by Syria to come in. They have also invited Iran , they didn’t invite the USA. Israel is concerned that Iran will move in and take up residency in Syria and harass Israel. Hezbollah has no desire to take Israel just perhaps get the Sheba farms back and maintain security on their borders Israel has no intention of ever doing that or returning the Golan. Until this happens there will always be a problem. Russia just told Israel that Iran will not attack them, but Israel knew it already. Israel wants the freedom to control beyond their borders and to possibly extend their borders because the Water there is needed for their security.
Syria invited the US when it used chemical weapons.
I agree with your assessment buying time
Rubbish and figments of your imagination that Iran pays russia to be in Iran. Russia has to be in Syria to save itself to stop the Americans in ME and stop the pipeline which would destroy Russia.
Russia giving this assurance is good enough. Notice Russia offer S400 to everyone except Iran. What more Israel wants? Behaving like a spoilt kid does not do good to Peace.
Essentially Russia, Iran , Syria, Hez, PMU will never allow US to steal the Syrian land just because they said do. Only kids playing X,box games will think it can be done.
Even Houthis will drive out the Americans not to say the powerful ASSAD’s allies.
US has no power in Syria . It’s a fact. That’s why Russia is Preparing with Su57 plus Su35 that has been configured with the Su57 vs old ,F22 and F35
Let the battle begins
Putin always speaks out of both sides of his mouth. Double minded men are unstable. He has no intention of doing anything that doesn’t promote Russia and increase his power .
BAALASS is BAshar AL-ASSad and SHTN is Sayyed Hassan Tisa Nasrallah.
The temple of Elijah the prophet was destroyed in Jobar, Damascus by Assad.
The temple of Baal was destroyed in Tadmor, Palmyra which badly upset Assad.
Have no fear my dear Israel.
Putin is a Jew.
Putin already fooled and betrayed the silly Iranians. Let the Iranians believe the nonsense we tell them, out of the fear in their hearts.
Let these stupid second-class muslims bury their heads in the sand like panicked ostriches.
Putin is a Jew.
http://lorddreadnought.livejournal.com/3483.html
Netanyahu is a Jew. They are friends who work together. Did Putin ever attack Israelis or Americans when they bombed and killed Russian (goyim i.e. animals or cattle) fighters? Never.
Putin will never fight against Israel to protect the lives of animals.
The planes are merchandise being advertised for sale, that’s all. They are no threat to Jewish lives nor Jewish supremacy.
God=Israel
The only animal is that very man who thinks other men are animal or cattle. We are all the sons of the One Creator, the one who rules it all, disregarding our race, creed or origin. God saves Israel.
But you have turned aside from the way. You caused many to stumble in the Torah. You corrupted the covenant of the Levites, said the Lord of Hosts.
9. And now I, too, have made you contemptible and low to the entire people according to how you do not keep My ways and [how] you show favoritism in the Torah.
10. Have we not all one father? Has not one God created us? Why should we betray, each one his brother, to profane the convenant of our forefathers?
Seems like iVaN, who now calls himself iVaN_RaSPuTiN, likes to constantly regurgitate the same thing over and over again!
Remember, iVaN, to share that community computer with the other patients in your ward———-the one waiting for that computer wants to go on SPONGE BOB’s website and, out of consideration for him, you need to take into account that what he wants to do on that computer is just as important as what you’re doing right now!
All existence is energy.
The second law of thermodynamics states:
(in paraphrase) Energy is neither created or destroyed it only changes form.
Consequently, the need for a Creator is unnecessary. All Energy is infinite.
Please come to your senses.
Regardless of the truth of the statement above…
I support Israel’s right to exist and to be recognized.
The fascists leaderships and the repressive political philosophies of the Russians, Iranians, Chinese and anti democratic followers/hangers on, need to be excised from the modern world.
“Putin is a Jew.”
WHAT A SURPRISE TO PUTIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!
“Did Putin ever attack Israelis————–”
Did you miss the Debka article about the Israeli F16————–if so, please review Debka’s very recent articles. Kindly do so before making any further posts.
If Russia supports the Iranian genocidal Nazi saluting shia forces and Hezbollah, Mahmoud Abbas and Hamas and is helping
them to build their manpower and arms against Israel then they obviously cannot be trusted. In our latest wars Russia has been a solid ally with all the Jewish States enemies and is always trying to give them the military edge over Israel by helping the Nazi Iranian Regime build.portable nuclear gas chambers and helping protect Iran by fortifying their positions surrounding Israel. Russian actions and not their words should analyzed!
So Russia is going to defend Israel if Iran attacks but will also defend Nazi Irans positions in Syria sounds like nonsense. If Russia would have helped Nazi Germany build German attack forces surrounding Israel would he still claim that he was acting in our Israels Interest. Israel must acknowledge that Russia is arming Nazi Iran to the teeth together with Hezbollah who are murdering innocent citizens all over Syria, the Kurds, Yazidis, etc. No trust in Iran! No trust in Hezbollah, No trustcin Russia. Only trust The G-d Of Israel!
Russia appear to have a good working relationship with Iran.
Is it possible that Russia is secretly planning to ultimately control the Israeli oil and gas deposits?
Yep
Leftists are trying to destroy Israel.
Why?
Because Israel is not leftist and for a leftist something that is not-leftist has to go. You see, for a leftist it is either a leftist-Israel or NO-Israel.
And since they have given up on making Israel leftist . . . they decided to go for NO-Israel.
Now, all the rest of the leftists in the world AND the Jew-haters, have decided to help them. Often they are one and the same. Like Soros.
So you have a powerful coalition that involves most of eurabia, a sizable portion of America, a sizable portion of Israel and many others, working very hard to destroy Israel, some because Israel is not being a leftist fantasy country and some because they hate Jews with a passion.
So you have to come, and the sooner the better, to a point where you understand that you can go on with this leftist 5th column working hard from within to destroy Israel until they succeed or you can deal with them and survive and move on.
What’s the worse that can happen? You loose a bunch of people? You can have more babies. It’s fun.
What you can’t have is what you have today, Iran and the rest of the stinking pisslims trying to destroy Israel from the outside with the help of a sizable portion of the non-pisslim (but Jew-hating) world and your leftist 5th column, already having contaminated the IDF, the police, the universities, the legal system and that’s not even the end of it, trying to destroy Israel from the inside.
Think of a warship in war time. A group of the crew rebel in the most traitorous of ways against legal authority, against their country, against decency. They HAVE to go overboard. If they can swim or not it’s their problem. But they HAVE to go.
So . . .
You don’t have to strive to appear to be the “good” guys.
You already ARE the good guys.
No decent person in the world doubts that.
Every single decent human being in the planet who deserves to call himself a man, roots for Israel.
What you have to be is the people who get to go home when the propellant stops burning.
Well . . . in your case . . . you have to be the people to gets to KEEP their home when the propellant stops burning.
In order to achieve this you need to remember a basic rule of survivors since man’s adventure begun: ruthlessness.
I know, you pulled the foundation of the State, you pulled the 48 war, the Six Days War, you pulled Thunderbolt and how many other feats? Great.
But since then something seems to have been changing.
You are allowing second guessing yourselves to get in the way.
You are allowing self doubt and self loathing to seep in unchecked.
You are allowing your military and your LE to be corrupted by the left.
You are allowing your stinking leftist minority to get the upper hand, day in and day out, with the help, to their eternal shame, of every stinking nazi around the world who gets somehow a chance at helping them try and destroy Israel. You are permanently letting them pour gravel in the machinery of State to destroy it and make it weak and finally stop it.
You are allowing your enemies to tighten a noose around your neck and to loose their respect for you. You are giving your enemies time to prepare at leisure while you just look worried and let leftists infect the minds of the young with doubt and self-loathing instead of instilling in them a ruthless love of country.
You’d better change that. And fast.
You are letting the left get away with a putsch against Netanyahu, violating the democratic process they pay lip service to, as leftists have done countless times before, all around the planet. It’s their method to get away with anything in spite of the people’s will clearly expressed in the electoral process.
The solution? Crush them like bugs. They deserve no less.
You want to play “democracy”? Then get elected.
Ruthlessness. There’s something there.
Leftists are ruthless . . . against Israel.
Ruthlessness. There’s something there.
And there’s something here, too: winning is more important than democracy.
Democracy is a futile exercise if you loose.
Democracy is a futile exercise if enough leftist cannibals are given the right to vote.
You are letting your benevolence get in the way of your self preservation.
No civilization under attack, EVER, survived by being nice.
The least of the nice is to be reserved for the traitors within: your leftists.
And you only have to loose once.
Ruthlessness. No matter the cost. Survival. No matter the cost.
A winner will always smell like roses.
A looser, no matter how “democratic”, will always smell like feces regardless of how many roses he may try to pour on himself.
And, in your case, a 2nd Holocaust is not an impossibility.
Ruthlessness. Survival is not an option. There’s no 2nd place, for you.
DEAL with your leftists. Before they destroy Israel.
Every Israeli leftist loves more being a leftist than he loves Israel. He partners with Jew-haters and stinking nazis, like Soros . . . against Israel. So . . . every leftist is a traitor.
To a leftist, to every leftist, it’s either a leftist Israel or no Israel at all.
DEAL with your traitors. Before they destroy Israel.
Win. Nothing else matters. Let the fools of the future debate how you did it. If they get to that point is because YOU gave them that future.
Make sure there’s a future for Israel. Give Israel a future.
Don’t let it all go to waste.
Do what has to be done. The answer to the fagoty question “does the end justify the means?” is a resounding “YES!!!”
Stop sitting on your hands and letting others carry the day.
Stop reacting and start acting. Lead. Make things happen.
And DEAL with the leftist traitors.
What’s the world gonna do? Get their panties in a bunch and scream “we hate Jews”?
T h e y a r e a l r e a d y d o i n g t h a t!
Get this into your misguidedly benevolent skulls: for decent folks to have a chance and a future, leftist cannibals have to go.
Jews are not chosen people. God hates them. The world hates them. They are the scum of the earth…
Another Jew-baiting, moronic post not worthy of comment !
So says the anti-Christ.
Go back to thy father Satan.
I fully agree with your well written comment.Leftist are the the new NAZIS and pose an existential threat to Israel and freedom loving people.
Trust no one. Israel needs to wipe out the snake ? Iran in Teheran while their is still time. Otherwise israel will be a memory
I have to agree with your comment.The Iranians in Syria arming themselves to the teeth with the help Russia and the Jews are to accept the mere words of the Russians that they will defend Israel if attacked by Iran.What an insult to the intellect of the Jews.I believe the jews have learned their history very well and they know they only have themselves and God.
Iran will arrive at the gates of Jerusalem and will be defeated.
Israel has always faught it’s wars on it’s own and will continue to do so.
Israel is here to stay whether the Russians and the Iranians like it or not.
Who cares about these low life Iranian mullahs.
Russia invaded Georgia, then Crimea, then Eastern Ukrain, then Syria,
Israel can not afford to rely on a third party for its defence
Israel will know what to do
israel doesnot havethe power to expelliran from syria
last time theylost a plane, next time may the airports will target.
that is the best offer that israel can get.
without russian permission, iran willnever attack israel
Mudslimes are LOSERS and will always find a way to LOSE
The Israelis I hope not so stupid to trust Putin.
I don’t know much abour SU-57 but SU -27s have engines made in Israel.
send a nuke to iran and see …
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Jews… Prepare yourselves for the greatest judgement of your entire Jewish history… According to scriptures… All have fallen short of the glory of God… Therefore… The so called, ‘laws’ that Jews think they are given… When actually Israel is given the laws, and Not the Jews…
One may quickly discover that Gog & Magog is designed to remove 90% of the population of this land. It is worth noting. That God will remind the Jews. That they are not chosen people. And if they are chosen…. Then they are chosen as cannon fodder…. Cannot wait for the Iranians and russians to liberate Jerusalem from the Jews… So that Israel can have its land back…
How do you say, “We are wise, and the Law of the Lord is with us”? Verily, behold it is in vain, he made a false scribes’ pen.
Wise men were ashamed, they were broken and caught; behold they rejected the word of the Lord, now what wisdom have they?
For he said to them, “This is the rest; give rest to the weary, and this is the tranquility,” but they would not listen.
And the word of the Lord shall be for them a precept for a precept, a precept for a precept, a line for a line, a line for a line, a little there, a little there, in order that they go and stumble backwards and be broken, and be trapped and caught.
Erm… By the way… Erm… Excuse me… But Israel utterly loses this war…
Anti-Christs have been predicting the end of Israel for 70 years – and Israel is still here and stronger than ever.
Israel remains. It’s enemies will turn to dust.
If the US or Israel suffer a nuke attack, Tehran will be vaporized, so too will Mecca and other Islamist and centers of Satanic plots.
Trump is the President of the US. Not Obama or anti-Christ jimmy carter.
Russia has entered the quagmire, and does not know how to leave.
The SU-57’s are not fully operational. They are proto-types, and the design is far less steathy than the F 22 or F 35- of which Israel has a squadran. I very much doubt the Russians will want to see the SU 57’s engage in combat.
listen, nutter, the idolatrous jewish state entity in the holy land, ‘ha eretz’ of the ToraH, is not the Israel of the Torah or the prophets. Not the man the nation or the house. A land will never surpass the importance of G=ds holy people. Beware.
Has been said before: F35s’ equipped with Israeli avionics are more than a match for SU57s’ and Putin knows this well. The Jewish state can rely ONLY on its own abilities for survival !
Putin and the looser Russians have fallen in love with the taste of Camel prick juice. Syria has now turned into a war for control of the Camels with the largest shlongs. The FAGATOLLAH will stop at nothing to control all of this. Alas Vladimir has allowed himself to be SEDUCED.
Jim Carrol great post.
Russia always fooled ,all Eastern European countries were fooled by Russia, so awaited you are.
russia is not offering anything re-assuring. I think Israel will hold their line against iranian presence in syria.
Time to arrest and execute the ayatollahs of Fascist Iran before it’s too late for Tehran and other cities of Persia.
What? Russia is going to DEFEND Israel?!!! Did I hear this right?!!! One Israeli brigade, not the best one, can easily defeat a half of the Russian army, if not the entire army! Stupid Russians with their medieval weaponry play protectors of Israel?!!! Only because of this stupidity the Russians deserve to die!
But everyone in the Universe knows: Communists say one thing, but do just the opposite. That is their slogan and method of operation. So, we know what they really mean by “will defend Israel” or “we will be on side of USA”. We know that Putler hates democracy because he wants to be a tzar forever, which means he hates USA automatically.
Israel can not risk allowing Iran to set up shop in Syria and Russia’s guarentees mean nothing. Ask the Ukrainians. The Israelis and the USA need to destroy every airfield in Syria – including the Russian aircraft; If they are on the tarmacs they are giant paperweights waiting to be destroyed.
Since most Russian Jews have left the country years ago Israel should not risk its very existence by trying to protect the remaining Jews in Russia. The Jews that still remain in Russia are there at their own risk and by their own volition. Obviously Israel will not hand its survival to anybody, even to the US let alone Russia. Bibi will talk nice to Putin while destroying the Iranians in Syria with US help. Putin is aware that Israel doesn’t trust him but he also knows that Bibi is afraid of what may come after Putin, hence both keep playing nice in public. Putin also knows that Israeli left already hate their own country and that his promise to defend them will not gain any new followers for him. The SU-57 is a scarecrow though Israel will lose more aircraft until the Jewish “kop” figures how to full the Russian SAMs just as it did in 1973 in Egypt.
Russia coming to Israel’s defence if Iran attacks Israel ? But Iran is already attacking Israel through its surrogates. And objects to Israel attacking the surrogates. So the Russians have it both ways.
so putin is playing both sides like obama tried to do lol so really whats happening is putin doesnt have a exit strategy and he knows he cant get drawn into a open conflict
time to test the amram missles on russian pak jets
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Which joke? That Islam is “The Religion of Peace”?
it was all obama fault. instead of helping the anti assad forces that were fighting russian sponsored regime..,obama choose to fight isis, helping the russians. in the 80 reagan supported jihadist to fight russia. now obama choose to support russia Iran to fight jihadists. the results are here. Russia in Syrian, Iran next to Israel, A much more dangerous situation. Defeat Assad should have been main priority, stop Iranian influence. Obama choose the other way, and created an horrible mess that can lead to world war III
We would not have Israel if God did not send hi titler to do what he did and also what happened there in ww2 is in part , part of the blessings and cursing from Deuteronomy 26-27.
The Almighty used a very uncomfortable situation (like in Exodus) to bring the reformation of his witnesses back as a nation.
Isa 43:9 Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the people be assembled: who among them can declare this, and shew us former things? let them bring forth their witnesses, that they may be justified: or let them hear, and say, It is truth.
Isa 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Jer 30:11 For I am with thee, saith the LORD, to save thee: though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee, yet will I not make a full end of thee: but I will correct thee in measure, and will not leave thee altogether unpunished.
Absolutely so. Besides, history itself proves that when God’s chosen people – the Jews- start to suffer in earnest, pangs and throes come on the whole world, too.
Jer 49:12 For thus saith the LORD; Behold, they whose judgment was not to drink of the cup have assuredly drunken; and art thou he that shall altogether go unpunished? thou shalt not go unpunished, but thou shalt surely drink of it.
Jer 25:29 For, lo, I begin to bring evil on the city which is called by my name, and should ye be utterly unpunished? Ye shall not be unpunished: for I will call for a sword upon all the inhabitants of the earth, saith the LORD of hosts
Second Testament Fake News
Obama is the true Satan.
… I can’t agree with you more!
LEFTIST Jews ARE the scam of the earth.
It was the filthy leftist Jews that collaborated with the natzis, as it is now, partnering with Islamic terrorists to distroy Israel from within.
As it is written:
שונאייך ומחריבייך מבנים יצאו
Israel’s worst enemy is the fifth Column – the leftist Jews, that together with the Israeli Arabs, are seeking the distraction of the State of Israel.
““If Iran attacks Israel, Russia will stand alongside the US to defend Israel,” said Russian ambassador to Israel Alexander Shein at the Munich security conference last week – in a mixed message from Moscow. ”
WOW———-I am so relieved that such a “trust worthy” nation has made that commitment.
I only have one issue——what if Hezbollah or any of the thousands of Shiite mercenaries Iran brought into Syria attack Israel?————–after all,the Russians didn’t say anything about them——right?
At any time in the history of the world, it’s impossible for any of us humans to go against God, especially those to whom He revealed Himself and with whom He made a Covenant. If some do, then it would have been better for such if they had never been born.
“Ah, Assyria, the rod of my anger; the staff in their hands is my fury! Against a godless nation I send him, and against the people of my wrath I command him, to take spoil and seize plunder, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets” (Isa 10:5,6).
“Look, O LORD, and see! With whom have you dealt thus? Should women eat the fruit of their womb, the children of their tender care? Should priest and prophet be killed in the sanctuary of the Lord?” (Lam. 2:20).
Etc.
“——————–allowed 6 million Jewish men, women and children to be mercilessly tortured, screaming to their deaths in concentration camps”
@Doc,
The perpetrators of these crimes were all brought up as Christians and these crimes occurred in nations which were just full of churches.
That had nothing to do with Christianity absolutely, but was a perversion and distortion of everything preached and taught first by Christ and then his apostles. When Jesus eventually comes, he’ll judge those “Christians” accordingly.
Mat 25:41 Then he will say to those on his left, Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels
Mat 7:21 Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven…
Etc.
Very little can be trusted by the Russians, and by the Iranians and the Syrians, absolutamemte NO.
Istraele knows very well that if you want the peace of being always ready for war.
As the Romans wrote Si vis pacem, para bellum
XXI Commandment “Never trust the 10 previous Commandments and never trust only the prayers”
Bibi is heading to the dustbin of history, let’s see what Liberman will do!
Some really surreal and weird pseudo religious “comments”/statements in this thread. People must have been watching too many movies…
I do not believe a word coming from the mouth of any Russian or Islamist. They lie. It is called Taqiyya. It is done to deceive in order to give Islamic jihadists the advantage.
Russia has always sided and aided the dirty Assad regime and now it is doing the same with the Iranian Mullahs. Russia sees itself as a player on the international scene but their only real strength is in their military – the people back home – just as the Iranian people – are being deceived by their leaders as these fools engage in genocide in Syria in an ugly, blood-soaked war which is a crime against humanity.
Israel must pursue the Iranian occupiers and invaders and Russia should not get in the way. I have never witnessed bugger liars. Iran is doing it to conquer the entire region and beyond for supremacist Islam. Russia does it to regain their supremacist Soviet stature.
Russia is in a quandary. Between the growing superior air and ground forces of the United States and Israel their position in the Middle East is is precarious. They need to increase the strength of Iran in Syria. Hence we get the ridiculous contrary comments from them. We must continue to block Iran’s land route to Syria and take out their forces.
Are you talking about the Russia which has a smaller GDP than Italy?
If Russia uses Nuclear weapons it will be vapourised.
So in essence if Russia’s military limited conventional forces in Syria/Med get into a fight with Israel on Israel’s borner, the Russians will lose.
The Russians cannot get into a nuclear war with Israel because then NATO wins.
Call the bluff boys. Call the Bluff. If Putin sees his antiaircraft systems getting wiped then he will pack up his toys before he loses everything in Syria. Russia is way over-extended.
IDF and NATO must be drooling at spying on the SU-57s, hacking them and data mining the OS. Yer smart move Putin; park your SU-57s on the tarmac in Syria.
SU 57 were detected before arriving in syria . they were spotted from russia to syria!!!! that is why they stay only shortly because they avoided another humiliation!!!!!!!!
russia is very ridiculous !!!!! if it want to go to war in syria against idf it will be defeated . russia has largely forgotten that it could not beat nazi without US help!!!!!!
russia also knows it. if it triggers wwIII it will be the only big looser
The Russian position might be called equanimity, a relic of a bygone age of diplomacy. Israel has become spoiled on decades of unilateralism underwritten by America. Remarkably, America has gone from hegemon to ME fringe player in shocking speed. There will be an adjustment period which, long term, might be good for the region.
It’s like Sarajevo 1914, and the GO board is now Syria.
I do see the US and Israelis testing the radar controls of the Russians with runs through Lebanon, into Syria, and seeing the response, a risky move. I also foresee well trained, intelligence led Deniable forces of indeterminate origin, making a run at those jets on the tarmac there. Also a risky prop.
We live in interesting times.
How many Russians are citizens of Iran?
How many Russians are citizens of Israel?
What dos the Ayatollah feel in his heart about Putin, a sort of athiest Christian?
What does Putin think in his heart about the Ayatollah?
Factor all of the above into the equation and think where it leads?
there are many moslem in russia more than jews
Russia, don’t do nothin’, jus’ let us keep bringing in more and more armies right up to your border. Don’t say nuthin’, jus’ do it. Jus’ you take off them pants.
Israel: Okay.
Yeah right when pigs can fly.
All existence is energy.
The second law of thermodynamics states:
(in paraphrase) Energy is neither created or destroyed it only changes form.
Consequently, the need for a Creator is unnecessary. All Energy is infinite.
With respect, Please come to your/our senses.
Regardless of the truth of the statement above…
I support Israel’s right to exist and to be recognized.
The fascists leaderships and the repressive political philosophies of the Russians, Iranians, Chinese and anti democratic followers/hangers on, need to be excised from the modern world
after being detected by US and israelis su 57 returned home because of useless!!!!!!
Daniel 9 Unfolding (the ram (Persia), the goat (Yavan (Turkey now)
8:4 And I saw the ram butting westward, and northward, and southward; and no beast could stand before him, and there was none that could deliver out of his hand; and he did according to his will, and became great.
8:19 And he said, Behold, I make thee know the things that shall come to pass at the end of the wrath: for the vision [is] yet for an appointed time.
8:20 The ram which thou sawest that had the horns is the king of the Medes and Persians.
8:21 The he-goat is the King of the Greeks: and the great horn which was between his eyes, he is the first king.
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