Russian lawmaker:  Su-57 in Syria as “deterrent” for neighbors’ overflights

US air combat general: The Russian Su-57 stealth jets in Syria raise “the level of complexity for USAF crews to deal with.”
Vladimir Gutenov, Chairman of the Military Industry Committee in the Russian parliament, commented Friday, Feb. 23, that the deployment of the Su-57 in Syria may send a political message, serving as a deterrent “for aircraft from neighboring states which periodically fly into Syria uninvited.”  The Russian lawmaker added that  the planes “need to be tested in combat conditions, in conditions of [enemy] resistance.”

DEBKAfile’s military sources note that the “political message” conveyed by the deployment of two fifth-generation, stealth SU-57 fighter jets at the Russian Khmeimim air base in Latakia is crystal clear. It is a warning to the US, Israel and Turkey against continuing their air force flights in Syrian air space. The reference to “the need to test the new plane in combat conditions” indicates that Moscow will not hesitate to send the high-tech jets into battle.
US responses to the Russian move were mixed. US Defense Department spokesman Eric Pahon told reporters, “We do not consider these [Su-57] jets to be a threat to our operations in Syria, and will continue to deconflict operations as necessary.” The DoD spokesman went on to complain that the deployment was an indication that Russia was not living up to its “announced force drawdown.”

More to the point, Gen. Mike Holmes, commander, Air Combat Command, Langley Air Base, Virginia, was quoted as saying, “The reported arrival of Russian stealth SU-57 fighter jets to Syria raises the level of complexity for the USAF crews to deal with.”

Our sources note that the “deconflict operations” cited by the Pentagon spokesman referred to the secret accords on military coordination in Syria that the US and Russia struck last year. The arrival of the Su-57 means that Moscow no longer feels bound by those accords. It may also indicate that President Vladimir Putin has equally relegated similar understandings with Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu to the past.

 

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54 thoughts on “Russian lawmaker:  Su-57 in Syria as “deterrent” for neighbors’ overflights

  • Feb 23, 2018 @ 18:41 at 18:41
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    Su 57 can detect stealth plus S400 can detect stealth. Feed these info to Su 35 , Su 35 can easily beat the F22 which cannot detect stealth.

    Who wins?

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    • Feb 23, 2018 @ 18:56 at 18:56
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      How are you aware of these conclusions? What sources are you obtaining information from? Sincere questions.

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      • Feb 24, 2018 @ 14:31 at 14:31
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        He is talking poo,US radar picked up all 4 aircraft on the outer fringes of there radar coverage,F22 can detect stealth in the case of a su56 this is irreverent as it is not a stealth aircraft it also only has forward sensing radar no weapons system other than gravity bombs,no side sensors ect ect,in reality its just a bluff that is very likely to go very badly wrong.The s400 cannot pick up or engage F22s ether again this is more Russian BS,\Putin is no more that a weak player whose armed forces and budget are at breaking point and is a desperate attempt to sell a sub standard aircraft riddled with problems and already rejected as near useless by India… https://warisboring.com/russias-stealth-fighter-deployment-in-syria-is-a-dangerous-farce/

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        • Feb 25, 2018 @ 21:55 at 21:55
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          you are an expert ? of video games ?

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      • Feb 24, 2018 @ 17:01 at 17:01
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        It is pretty obvious that he is an idiot. No need to reply.

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      • Feb 25, 2018 @ 0:30 at 0:30
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        He gets his information from propaganda pieces in russian press and internet. Russian “Patriots” i.e. street rubble with imperialist inferiority complex are itching to see how Mother Russia shows who is the boss to hated americans, who refuse to pay respect to the Russian greatness and ambitions to prove that Russia is not Haute Volta with missiles as lord Chalfont had determined it more than 50 years ago, but super power.

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    • Feb 23, 2018 @ 19:37 at 19:37
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      Russian propaganda wins, because you actually believe that malarkey.

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    • Feb 24, 2018 @ 20:05 at 20:05
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      ПОБЕДИМ МЫ РУССКИЕ.НЕ РОДИЛСЯ ЕЩЁ НА СВЕТ ТОТ КТО СМОГ БЫ ПОБЕДИТЬ РОССИЮ,НЕ БУДИ ЛИХО ПОКА ОНО ТИХО.

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      • Feb 24, 2018 @ 21:16 at 21:16
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        Good advice. Pass it along to the 200+ Vagner gruz 200’s and 100+ gruz 300’s. Future provocations will also receive an appropriate response.

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      • Feb 28, 2018 @ 7:30 at 7:30
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        Meanwhile more Russians will die in Syria for this maniac Assad.
        Keep on coming boys !

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    • Feb 28, 2018 @ 15:58 at 15:58
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      the last engagement with US lasted 3 hours do you noted that!!!!! and russian bases were not very away from the area of battle . the s400 and su 35 came to syria tp protect all those area. and you had to note that during the 3 hours of battle russia choose to sacrified its soldiers by fleeing the battlefield. nows if russia had the cojone and if they are sure that their poor SU-57 is a capable jet they can try again to attack americans!!!! i dont think they will dare because if they will try again at this time all their forces in syria will be destroyed entirely. the slap thta russia received is warning

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  • Feb 23, 2018 @ 19:51 at 19:51
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    I got top secret info, these jest are powered with stealth diesel and powered by a charcoal furnace. You need 2 guys to fill the hatch, but that is a good thing since they have a secondary function as pilot and navigator.

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  • Feb 23, 2018 @ 19:57 at 19:57
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    If Israel feels existentially threatened it will wipe Russia from the middle East
    Without airports to reinforce, the Russian troops will get surrounded by syrian anti-assad forces and will get some justice for supporting that genocidal maniac assad
    Russia can then decide if it wants to go nuclear-war with a non-NATO country and let NATO invade Russia afterwards “to maintain stability” after Israel has vapourised it.
    Putin is not that stupid

    I hope they put their best pilots into those aeroflot death-traps because if they take on the IDF or USAF they are going home in an urn

    I bet Israel and NATO are licking their lips at the chance of analysing these aeroflot fails that look a lot like the american planes they could never have designed in Russia

    Let’s not forget Italy has a bigger economy than Russia. It exports gas and trolls…and crime

    So glad I am not an alcoholic, I mean Russian

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    • Feb 23, 2018 @ 20:27 at 20:27
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      “Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.”

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    • Feb 24, 2018 @ 0:01 at 0:01
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      Nuclear threats can’t save you, Amalekite. Russia can kill two thirds of your people with two bombs.

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      • Feb 24, 2018 @ 8:53 at 8:53
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        Crazy talk – Well, if that’s the case you can forget russia being around too…Israel has shown time and again it also has ‘surprises” so don’t get too cocky about russia and friends winning let alone surviving such an exchange – it will be hard to pick winners when everyone has been nuked. Everyone should just go home before there’s no home to go to.

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        • Feb 26, 2018 @ 23:58 at 23:58
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          Look, Yoskie, we know you got the nukes. What are they for?

          You know the saying, ‘he who lives by the sword…’

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    • Feb 24, 2018 @ 20:11 at 20:11
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      А ЧТО ЖЕ ТОГДА НЕТАНЬЯХУ КАК ПОБИТАЯ СОБАКА В МОСКВУ К ПУТИНУ НА КОВЁР ПРИЕЗЖАЛ. ПАРТИЗАН ИЗ ХАМАСА И ХЕЗБОЛЛЫ ПОБЕДИТЬ НЕ МОГУТ , НЕ ГОВОРЯ УЖЕ О РОССИИ.ИНСТРУМЕНТ ЕЩЁ НА РОССИЮ НЕ ВЫРОС.И ВАС МАТРАСНИКОВ НАГНЁМ И ПОИМЕЕМ ДАЙ ТОЛЬКО ВРЕМЯ ПЕРЕВООРУЖИТЬ АРМИЮ.

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    • Feb 26, 2018 @ 21:59 at 21:59
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      I’m afraid you are wrong Russia is going to mop the floor with us and Israeli air forces and if Israel does something stupid Wich it will then they will not have any air Force or military hardware left.
      Remember Russia is often slow to react and so seems weak but when they
      Deside to apply them selves to the task at hand they have a habit of finishing the job.
      Oh well it’s bound to be soon.

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      • Feb 27, 2018 @ 0:10 at 0:10
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        the threat level seems to rise logarithmically since the Libyan debacle and the Russians began to apply the solution. that should tell you what you are dealing with.

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  • Feb 23, 2018 @ 21:17 at 21:17
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    Leftists, pisslims, russkies, decent Israelis better start killing some enemies soon before they get overwhelmed.
    Let’s put it this way: if your enemies think you are a good guy they’ll piss on you.
    Do something to make them think you are crazy enough to do them real harm, no matter what the cost.
    Then they’ll think twice.
    One of Israel’s biggest problems is that people think Israelis are civilized.
    And they take advantage of it and Israelis just stand there looking in despair.
    Stop with the timidity.
    You can’t be a pussy in that neighborhood.
    Look at the current situation.
    The people who founded Israel would have taught somebody a lesson they would never forget, already.
    And you are letting Iran camp on your front door and get ready to pounce on you.
    You should have killed the first Iranian in Syria and kept going.
    Why is hezbollah strutting its stuff in Lebanon? Why are they even alive?
    And just now you are thinking about developing missile artillery? Really?
    Come on, Israel!!
    We want you to survive not be the good guy!
    Nobody gives a F if you are seen as the good guy!!
    Those who love you will keep on loving you no matter what.
    Those who hate you are not going to change a bit.
    Half the world hates you, already. What’s gonna happen? Somebody else is gonna hate you?
    Who? The stinking germans? The polaks? The KKK? Pity Livni? Your corrupt cops?

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    • Feb 23, 2018 @ 22:34 at 22:34
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      good words George, who ever you are, yes and amen..

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    • Feb 24, 2018 @ 0:17 at 0:17
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      You must be drunk. (the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her idolatry.)

      (By feet trodden down is the proud crown of the drunkards of Ephraim,)

      Yeshayahu- Isaiah – Chapter 29

      5. And the multitude of foreigners shall be like fine dust, and the multitudes of tyrants like passing chaff, and it shall be a sudden happening.

      6. From the Lord of Hosts she shall be visited with thunder, with earthquake, and a great noise, storm wind and tempest, and a flame of consuming fire.

      7. And shall be like a dream, a vision of [the] night, the multitude of all the nations assembled upon Ariel, and all those stationed around her and those who trap her, and those who besiege her.

      8. And it shall be, as the hungry man dreams, and behold, he eats, and he shall awaken, and his appetite is unsated, and as the thirsty man dreams, and behold he drinks, and he shall awaken and behold he is faint, and his soul yearns, so shall be the multitude of all the nations gathered on Mount Zion.

      9. Stop and wonder; they became blind and they blinded. They were intoxicated but not from wine; they reeled but not from strong wine.

      10. For the Lord has poured upon you a spirit of deep sleep, and He has closed your eyes; the prophets and your heads who stargaze, He has covered.

      11. And the vision of everything has been to you like the words of a sealed book, which they give to one who can read, saying, “Now read this,” and he shall say, “I cannot, for it is sealed.”

      12. And if the book is given to one who cannot read, saying, “Now read this,” he shall say, “I cannot read.”

      13. And the Lord said: “Because this people has come near; with their mouth and with their lips they honor Me, but their heart they draw far away from Me, and their fear of Me has become a command of people, which has been taught.

      14. Therefore, I will continue to perform obscurity to this people, obscurity upon obscurity, and the wisdom of his wise men shall be lost, and the understanding of his geniuses shall be hidden.

      15. Woe to those who think deeply to hide counsel from the Lord, and their deeds are in the dark. And they said, “Who sees us and who knows us?”

      16. Shall your perversion be regarded like the potter’s clay? Shall the thing made say of him who made it, “He did not make me,” and the impulse say to the One Who formed it, “He does not understand”?

      17. Indeed, in a short time, the Lebanon shall be turned into a fruitful field, and the fruitful field shall be regarded as a forest.

      18. And on that day the deaf shall hear the words of the book, and out of the obscurity and out of darkness shall the eyes of the blind see.

      19. And those who suffered shall increase their joy in the Lord, and the impoverished people shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel.

      20. For the tyrants have ended and the scornful have been destroyed, and all those eager to commit violence shall be cut off.

      ‘I shall have peace, though I walk in the imagination of mine heart, to add drunkenness to thirst’

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      • Feb 26, 2018 @ 11:38 at 11:38
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        There is no sky ghost. Never was. There is Confirmation Bias against the Scientific Method. Quote from superstitious books and we’ll respond with combat models and nuclear fission.

        Fortunately the Israelis are also driven more by science and reality than the cultish herd-followers who are obsessed with Israel’s role in fairy stories.

        Anyone detached from reality is gonna lose, no matter what side they are on.

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        • Feb 27, 2018 @ 0:39 at 0:39
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          Spoken like a proper Amalekite. Your condom nationality multi national terror state is not the Israel of the ToRaH. Stop lying.

          And the multitude of foreigners shall be like fine dust, and the multitudes of tyrants like passing chaff, and it shall be a sudden happening.

          6. From the Lord of Hosts she shall be visited with thunder, with earthquake, and a great noise, storm wind and tempest, and a flame of consuming fire.

          7. And shall be like a dream, a vision of [the] night, the multitude of all the nations assembled upon Ariel, and all those stationed around her and those who trap her, and those who besiege her.

          8. And it shall be, as the hungry man dreams, and behold, he eats, and he shall awaken, and his appetite is unsated, and as the thirsty man dreams, and behold he drinks, and he shall awaken and behold he is faint, and his soul yearns, so shall be the multitude of all the nations gathered on Mount Zion.

          9. Stop and wonder; they became blind and they blinded. They were intoxicated but not from wine; they reeled but not from strong wine.

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  • Feb 23, 2018 @ 22:54 at 22:54
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    Russia has high export hopes for the Su-57. Same thing for the US with its F35. Russia and the US both can’t afford to loose one of their new airplanes because this would have devasting consequences for the future of these two programs.

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    • Feb 24, 2018 @ 12:36 at 12:36
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      Most aviation experts question the SU-57’s stealth capabilities. The US has twenty plus years actually using stealth aircraft in combat. Don’t forget the US has two stealth aircraft in theater; the F-22 and the F-35. Russia makes exaggerated claims but they have never been able to score a hit on the aging F-15’s in combat. The crack smoking Russians are using bluster, their stealth fighters are like their supersonic airliner, disasters waiting to happen.

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      • Feb 27, 2018 @ 0:13 at 0:13
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        despite the fact that when the USSR fell and Russias military capabilities were tested your ATGM’s couldn’t penetrate a T-72 amnd the MIGS-with their fourth gen missiles and helmet sights shot down all your planes.

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      • Feb 27, 2018 @ 0:25 at 0:25
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        Russia has never fought the f16 or f15 however third world countries have fought them with outdated Soviet export models flown by third rate pilots .

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        • Feb 28, 2018 @ 16:13 at 16:13
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          IN KOREA WAR RUSSIA IN THE AIR RUSSIA LOST FACE TO US PILOTS
          IN 1970 PILOTS RUSSIA CONFRONTED ISRAELIS PILOTS IN EGYPTIAN AIR SPACE AND THEY LOST. AFTER THAT FAILURE THEY NEVER WENT TO FIGHT AGAIN ISRAELIANS PILOTS

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  • Feb 23, 2018 @ 23:09 at 23:09
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    The evil Genocidal nazi saluting Iran and Syria Hezbollah gas your own people forces being financed by the russian, iranian, and syrian axis of evil will fall in whatever trap they helped set for Israel. The iranian, syrian, and russians are murdering Muslims all over the middle East and hate them as much as they do Israel As it says in the Torah Those who Bless Israel will be blessed and those who curs Her will be cursed!

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    • Feb 24, 2018 @ 0:23 at 0:23
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      …but jews we can curse

      YirmiYahu 24:9 And I will deliver them for abhorrence, for an offense to kol mamlechot ha’aretz to be a reproach and a byword, a taunt and a kelalah (curse) in all places where I shall drive them.

      YirmiYahu 29:18 –
      AndI will persecute them with the ‘sword, with the famine, and with the pestilence, and will deliver them to be removed to all the kingdoms of the earth, to be a curse, and an astonishment, and an hissing, and a reproach, among all the nations whither I have driven them:

      Jer 34:17 –
      Therefore thus saith the LORD; Ye have not hearkened unto me, in proclaiming liberty, every one to his brother, and every man to his neighbour: behold,I proclaim a liberty for you, saith the LORD, to the ‘sword, to the pestilence, and to the famine; and I will make you to be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.

      Devarim 29:11: … Now IF you obey me FULLY and keep my covenant, THEN out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine, You will be for me a kingdom of PRIESTS ] and a holy nation.’ These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites.”

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      • Feb 24, 2018 @ 4:36 at 4:36
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        Are you out of you mind ?
        Israel is so small a fire cracker
        Can wipe it and it’s Nabours out !
        Wake up

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        • Feb 27, 2018 @ 0:29 at 0:29
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          The idolatrous jewish state entity that you worship is not the Israel of the bible. Period. Israel is a people. this state entity will strike the jewish people down.

          Yeshayah (Isaiah) 10:16-23 Therefore, the Lord, HaShem Almighty, will send a wasting disease upon his sturdy warriors; under his pomp a fire will be kindled like a blazing flame. The Light of Israel will become a fire, their Holy One a flame; in a single day it will burn and consume his thorns and his briers. The splendor of his forests and fertile fields it will completely destroy, as when a sick man wastes away. And the remaining trees of his forests will be so few that a child could write them down. In that day the remnant of Israel, the survivors of the house of Jacob, will no longer rely on him who struck them down but will truly rely on HaShem, the Holy One of Israel. A remnant will return, a remnant of Jacob will return to the Mighty God. Though your people, O Israel, be like the sand by the sea, only a remnant will return. Destruction has been decreed, overwhelming and righteous. The Lord, HaShem Almighty, will carry out the destruction decreed upon the whole land.

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      • Mar 18, 2018 @ 14:49 at 14:49
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        Since Pourim, we have been priests and the Gentiles Israel. Just takes a darn long time to abandon the flat earth theory.

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  • Feb 24, 2018 @ 13:18 at 13:18
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    Maybe this hardware is meant to assert Russian hegemony for the Iranians to see that they must not mess with the Putin. At some point the Iranians and the Russians will have to discuss the division of the spoils of war and that could mean more than diplomatic tension and might lead to blows being exchanged between the Islam-fascists and the Soviet wannabes.

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  • Feb 24, 2018 @ 17:08 at 17:08
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    In the current state, all those russki “stealth” jets would be easily shot down by a single F-16. They are likely deployed there just to see how quickly they break down so the design can be improved.

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  • Feb 24, 2018 @ 18:52 at 18:52
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    This raises the level of combat in Syria and is indicative of a much longer war than anyone can imagine. One thing is for sure, the US already deployed F-22 Raptors in Syria’d north West on the other side of the Euphrates River. They have been used several time now and stopped the Russian Iranian operation to cross the Euphrates River into Kurd country. Now we shall see US Technology at its best; we just don’t stop the development processes because we build the machine we constantly up grade and improve systems.

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  • Feb 25, 2018 @ 17:53 at 17:53
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    How about plan B?
    Send Rabbi Nathan to Mt Zion before April 19th. 46 working days plus 7 shabbats.

    As the Beetles would say: “we can work it out”.

    If the deadline I revealed here is crossed, then I am afraid more recycling of human lives is at stake. Many will return as dogs, no matter what religion or nation they claimed to belong to.

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  • Feb 25, 2018 @ 18:07 at 18:07
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    Putin is a Jew.
    http://lorddreadnought.livejournal.com/3483.html
    Netanyahu is a Jew. They are friends who work together. Did Putin ever attack Israelis or Americans when they bombed and killed Russian (goyim i.e. animals or cattle) fighters? Never.
    Putin will never fight against Israel to protect the lives of animals.
    The planes are merchandise being advertised for sale, that’s all. They are no threat to Jewish lives nor Jewish supremacy.
    God=Israel

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    • Mar 18, 2018 @ 15:00 at 15:00
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      Nope, Purin is NOT a Jew, but yes he has CAPO friends. Really sorry they are not lifting a finger to allow Rabbi Nachman to Mt Zion. They are fighting it with all their might. The taskmasters of Russia. Why doesn’t Rabbi Nachman just drop them? Just because Putin will take his revenge if they ask, doesn’t mean they need to collaborate. The Gd less fearful nation, they who fear the boogy man.

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  • Feb 25, 2018 @ 18:10 at 18:10
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    === SHALOM, PEACE– Stop killing each other.

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  • Feb 26, 2018 @ 11:45 at 11:45
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    Thank Debka for this space, Phew! These comments I don’t understand who is against who and for what!!!

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  • Feb 27, 2018 @ 5:48 at 5:48
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    The entire world is in stress, what if a SU 57 shots down an F 22, or a F 35, and these fall in Russian hands, who will the US blame to, Putin?
    After all a SU 57=F 22+F 35

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  • Feb 28, 2018 @ 16:06 at 16:06
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    RUSSIA KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT STEALH TECHNOLOGY .IT IS LARGELY BEHIND US. THE FALSE COPY OF THE F 22 IS THEIR FIRST GENERATION OF ATTEMPT OF STEALTH TECHNOLOGY.
    RUSSIA IS NO THREAT FOR ANYONE EXCEPT TURKISH AIR FORCE

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  • Mar 1, 2018 @ 12:50 at 12:50
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    The day Russia decides no one can fly over Syria, no one can fly. That’s it. The article claims the new tech planes are deterrent for Turkey as well. Turkish planes can not and do not enter Syrian airspace without Russian co-ordination. Who do we think the shot down the Israeli F-16? Syria? No way, this was a warning by Russia that this is their Turf. This is the new reality of the power in Middle East. US lost in this one. Israel should be concerned too, Russia calls the shots.

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  • Mar 18, 2018 @ 11:24 at 11:24
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    Turf. Yes. They want more chaos. Stop playing Domino, HIT THE SNAKE IN THE HEAD! 29 days left!

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