The mystery of the ultra-secret Russian “Losharik” submarine disaster
At least 14 Russian naval officers and sailors died in a fire on a top-secret Russian AS-12 deep-water submarine on Monday, July 1. Some had been awarded the highest military honor of “Hero of the Russian Federation.” But when on Wednesday, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov was asked for details about the disaster, he declined, saying that information about the vessel would not be released because it “is classified” as a state secret for protecting the country’s national security.
Regarding the crew, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu disclosed only that they were “unique military specialists, highly qualified professionals, performing important research on the Earth’s hydrosphere.
Neither cited the vessel’s name. However, DEBKAfile’s military and intelligence sources have learned that the AS-12’s work was so secret that officials only mentioned its nickname: “Losharik,” which has a double connotation. In the 70s, Russian TV ran an animation series built around a horse made up of small balls known as Losharik. The stricken submarine was also made of interlinked titanium balls.
But the most secret department of the Russian Defense Ministry whose functions are known to very few insiders is also referred to as “Losharik.”. The nickname therefore pointed to the submarine’s highly classified missions.
One premise is that the vessel was engaged either in testing a new Russian secret underwater weapon or in a covert operation against a top-secret American object of some kind. Its exact location when the fire broke out and its cause – whether an explosion or an attack – remain hidden. This information may not come to light for years to come. But just as intriguing is the fact that, on Tuesday, June 2, when the Russian leadership met urgently in the Kremlin in connection with the submarine disaster, top officials were also called to the White House for an emergency consultation.
What did Washington have to do with the Russian submarine disaster? The two powers are evidently colluding to cover up what happened. You will find more, much more, about this mysterious episode in the coming issue of DEBKA Weekly (for subscribers) out on Friday, July 5. Click here to sign on.
Why America has Abandon Nuclear Power leaving that to Russia and China Tomsk-7, Chernobyl, Balakovo, Leningrad & Chlelyabinsk. Could happen in Iran someday as well during the Overthrow.
I thought you were on Gilligan’s Island but by the look of it you’re on Fantasy Island! stop eating the mushrooms you pick up, just fish from now on…
Sol…We are still waiting for your confusion on How you Mistake Hawks as Eagles? Let us know when you can Prove it? LOL!
For what we know already Israel is badly missing 2-3 nuclear attack submarines. Let them nicely swarm in deep waters and listen for the songs of whales and orders from home, always with an attentive eye on the ICBMs and Tomahawks maintenance.
This is because of the Archimede’s Law of ICBMs Flotation which says: A nuclear submarine displaces as much water one country would cry over for not having it when needed as deterrent.
Iran might have very beautiful whales, reportedly they do not sing, only wisper, ay ay ay so absolutely silent it is a real pity! This is why it is good to have a lot of submarines not too far from Iranian waters, just in case.
These whales supposedly might bite the periscope, but the noise from one single salvo of ICBMs launching easily scares them away.
pig putin is killing his own sailors like in Kursk submarine. he will never ask foreign help. he thinks like a muslim pig
Mrs. Shalem, could you please discuss your article about the sinking of an US submarine by a russian vessel?
Is there anything to it or was this fake news?
https://www.debka.com/mivzak/urgent-consultations-in-washington-moscow-on-reported-us-russian-submarines-in-firefight/
Pretty lame to report Russia sinking an American sub, which likely would kick off a world war — and then silently air-brush it out of the follow-up story because it apparently never happened. Why should Debka be trusted?
Did it say that on the first report and then Debka changed it?
Yes. Cowardly, no?
as an Israel-connected media source it obviously shouldn’t be trusted. You just need to sift through what they’re putting out & separate the truth from the lies. Not easy, but doable.
Well said.
I think some type of discussion is warranted after a claim like that.
Otherwise, people like myself become very skeptical of the site.
That’s a pretty huge miss on Debka’s part by saying Russia attacked a US submarine and then quietly removing that part of the article when no evidence comes forward. From here on out, I think people should take everything Debka reports with a huge grain of salt
No, we can just recognize how Debka is out there with sources and usually first out with the news and we go to the site because we appreciate this.
Usually, their sources don’t let them down and I am sure they learnt a lesson too.
It was exciting, for a moment, thinking there was a shootout between Russia and the US. Glad your sources were misled:)
Evidently fed a false report or premature info, it happens, esp when time margins are tight. Debka’s a fascinating source, but it’s not the same as MSM for many reasons
The Russians are STUPID.
Russia let their submariners die on the Kursk.
Now this.
Russians are STUPID, but way smarter than Fascist Iranians or Sub-100 IQ Pal-e-SWINIANS.
The Defunct USSR’s Chernobyl Nuclear Disaster was the Worst Nuclear Accident in Global History causing the Politburo to seek Foreign Aid. America Aided with Robots Built at CMU in Pittsburgh and still help out even Today!
https://www.the-scientist.com/news/soviet-official-admits-that-robots-couldnt-handle-chernobyl-cleanup-61583
I forgot about Chernobyl. MORE DUMB KNUCKLE DRAGGING RUSSIANS MESSING UP THE WORLD.
Here in the US, we have no high-speed rail, can’t make a TV, and can’t even use the Metric system…so, Russians don’t seem so dumb to me.
The Russians led their sailors die in order not to speak of the collission/fightwith the
USSN Toledo and the USSN Memphis.
Putin was rewarded with 10.000 Million dollars, and the right to participate in the
“ALL SEEING EYE” parties. Putin IS NOT THE NEW HITLER.
The “New Hitler” will come in Russia after Putin…
This may be a Sign from Jehovah-Allah Warning to Iran that Iranian making same Mistakes of Japan putting Reactors in One Location at Bushehr 1-5 where Allah’s Earthquakes of 7.7 Caused Concrete Cracks?
The God of the Bible is not the same God as allah.
Well, tell that to the Messengers of Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed!
Moses & Jesus have no connection Scripturally, Prophetically, or in the Divine, with Johnny come lately Mohammedanism. With all due respect…
Ginger has again shown a little knowledge is dangerous. She is not alone.
You think. Every muslim know that jesus Christ is the messiah. He will return on judgement day. So says the Bible and the Quran. ALLAHU AKBAR. GOD IS GREATEST.
They all recognize the Message and Covenant G-d made with Abraham that all came to Preach as Part of their Teachings, in the Torah, Bible, and Quran! You need to Prove Otherwise with Citations!
Shema Yisroel…
Maimonides wrote that the three religions believe in the one true God. He also wrote that in the Messianic era the mistakes of his prophets will need to be corrected.
Maimonides also talked about how all of the Christians, Goyim/Nations, are to be put under Noahide Laws. Whereby, Christians who believe Yeshua/Jesus to be Yah/God incarnate are to be put to death by decapitation based upon Talmudic interpretations of so called ‘Idol Worship’.
You really need to dig some more.
But both are fantasies.
let me put my wave????
Yes you are true !!
Jehova is not satan allah the god of the moon which does not exist
You all need to pick up a book and read and learn. יהוה ,YHWH, God, Allah, yahweh,And God said to Moses, ‘I AM WHO I AM.’ And He said, ‘Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, “I AM has sent me to you.”‘ Moreover God said to Moses, ‘Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: “The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.
Just because there are Rabbis that say that Allah is their God, does not mean that it is the same God that Christians are to worship. It is not the same.
Muslims are perfect Noahides, as are Mormons/Jehova’s Witnesses/Seventh Day Adventists.. As they believe Yeshua to be a ‘created’ being, which he was not. Just read John.
Check out Israeli News Live with Steve Ben-Noon, and you will see.
So what American sub is missing? All are accounted for according to U S Navy. No American subs anywhere near this incident. Families of such an event would be screaming bloodly murder if this haf happened. Israel using false flag reporting again?
The only way to know that all subs are accounted for would be to know about all of the subs. Things go on that only select people hear about or know about. Quite serious things. This from people who have participated in them but cannot discuss them.
Only subs there should be Hunter-Killer patrolling Bering Strait. So probably there should be an H-K sub there.
Another ignoramous blaming Israel. Boring. Old. Tiring.
The zionist mafia is responsible for a great many things.
the muslim pigs are invading europe with their dirty ideology of crimes. muslim mafia pigs want to destroy europe by invading it. Lucky shortly the war wull start against the pigs of allh and garbage of muhammad the pedopyle garbage
Kalergi plan literally spelled this out. Cause chaus in Europe with Muslims from destabalized nations, and then have Israel come in as the hero once the native population sees them as the enemy. You haven’t been searching for very long, or you seem to completely obfuscate the genuine situation.
corey=lunatic nazi muslim pig with the fake plane with does not exist
sounds more like the chosenites to me…
Zionist Fascist Jew Regime is responsible for this
Another completely inane comment from another lunatic with absolutely no comprehension of well anything. Explain why Israel has anything to do with the Russians losing another of their death trap submarines?
pig putin lets his soldiers die like on kurks only not to get foreign help
russian fascist nazi regime of pigs meaning muslim pig kadyrov the dpg of putin and putin himelf are kiling their own soldiers
The name say’s it all. Thanks for playing, come again.
Abraham is recognized by Jews, Christians, and Muslims. The Abrahamic Religions Judaism 7th Century BCE, Christianity in the 1st Century CE, and Islam in the 7th Century CE! All 3 Claim to be Monotheistic, Worshiping an Exclusive G-d, known by different Names! All 3 had Messengers as well.
https://youtu.be/AXpslE677lw
Debka messed up. Fake news.
Allah is the Father of no one. By own description definition not God the Father… John Chapter 17 is helpful for Ms. Ginger et al. Allah demands believers die for him.. Christ the Messiah died once for all.
Book of Acts of the Apostles; Chapter 8 gives executive summary, Stevan’s narrative to the Sanhedrin. Next, Ginger will be calling Mohammedanism the “Religion Of Peace”… Still friends?
The Cowboy and Cossack will Re-Design the Shiia into a Caliphate Of Charity For Service of Submission Surrender as Allah Intended in 630 CE!
But Yacov struggled, walked crookedly and the unnamed gd surnamed him ʾyš (man) rʾh (to see) ʾel (Gd). Submission is quite opposite. So hail Y’shua prince of the countenance, king of kings. (kings were gobsmacked)
“muhammad” is ONLY a prophet of SATAN.
I will Accept any Corrections by Anyone at Anytime, when they have Full Proof of any Errors, but Abraham is Starts in 7th BCE as Cited in all Torahs as Learned by Jesus as a Son of Abraham from Mother Mary a Daughter of Abraham, as written by Mark and Luke in the New Testament, and Died on the Cross King of the Jews as Roman Wrote it, but his Message was the same but applied to Jews and Gentiles, as both Abraham, Jesus and Mary are Honored by Mohammad the Messenger in the Quran as well. You may Cite that none of the above happen using the Holy Scriptures? Christian and Islamic Fruits From Judaism one G-D Roots!
It is in the Quran that Yah/God has no sons.
Explain how that lines up.
Judaism/Jews, as it/they currently exists, rarely if ever actually read the Old Testament.
Kabballah and Talmud. Not to say that there aren’t good Jews out there. Most of the stuff that needs to get exposed, is done by them. Things like Talpiot and the tech takeover, theft of American technology and backdooring of our grid.. Or even the plans to do the same to the Jedi Cloud Pentagon program, whereby Microsoft (Whose R&D Center moved to Israel) will accomplish a takeover of US military even more than they already have.. Check into Brendon O’Connel.
Yeshua Jesus is the only one that claimed that He was the Son of God not a messenger and that He came as the Hebrew scriptures said . Islam made no such claim . Christianity supports the Hebrew scriptures
Indeed, he carried a message, an invitation to a wedding. All are invited.
‘…for, what had not been told them they saw, and [at] what they had not heard they gazed.
(Into all the earth (as created)
is their line gone forth;
And into the ends of the world (as inhabited)
Their sayings.)
Tahoe Valley Lines…Good Men of Abraham’s One G-d Linking!
Islam, Judaism, and Christianity – A Conversation:
https://youtu.be/INIG636SnU4
Tahoe Valley Lines…Good Men of Abraham’s One G-d Linking! Islam, Judaism, and Christianity – A Conversation: https://youtu.be/INIG636SnU4
This is an information site. Guys, why don’t you take your idiotic fact-less, baseless fairy tales somewhere else?
That noncense is just as ridiculous as a witch doctor reading chicken bones.
ongoing russian mischief
Sub conflict is highly probably fake. But you all missing a point.
Why suddenly vice president of usa, putin, eu, china and other important-ish countries’ security departments called ultra emergency meetings?
Something very important happened we may never know.
Deranzo, that was the reason I was willing to swallow it. I nowhere else could verify the information about a sub conflict. But all the rumors let me to believe that something was going on. And if a sub was sunk there could have been a media blackout for US and NATO to take some time to think about a reaction.
But I don’t see anything come forward so I guess this was a non-event.
Angus…Information you conveyed was nothing as well, you can choose to Add Some Info or Ignore Others Posts, but that is your Fact-Less Fairy Soliloquy Opinion Tale as well!
Probably researching the international fiber optics lines or a US under water surveillance device.
The Russian sub is designed to cut undersea telecom cables between the US and the rest of the world. It got fired upon obviously. Don’t f with our cables.
The information is very scarce, but since both countries have held an emergency meeting, it is likely that your article is true. The accident could have been a collision or that the US had caused it.
In international norms, if serious incidents are disguised as such, it can be done to avoid war.
Agree, The Russian Sub Info is now under No Info Lock & Key!
Angus, I Hear You, The Mideast Info are Intertwined with Civilization Origins of Religions, Empires, and Advanced such Cultures & Nations and require being part of any Solution! I accept if you disagree!
Russians was trying to recover something from the deet sea…
https://www.space.com/bering-sea-fireball-satellite-photos.html
To people who ask here “to discuss”: there is a lot of material on internet about “Losharik”: Putler (Путлер) and Rashists (Рашисты) designed the sub to cut undersee communication cables between Americas and Europe. Russian Communists (Rushists, Рашисты) kept asking for cutting the intenrent cables for 100 years, until today. That is their dream: to hurt the Burguasie Pigs. But Putler (Путлер) and Rushists (Рашисты) call the sub as “scientific ocean floor research”. Same as Japanese call their commercial whaling poaching ships by name ” Scientific Research” when Japanese are illegally killing whales in protected by International LAW Marine Sanctuaries. Japs are morally bankrupt. They will gladly kill elephants for burgers, too, or any animals going Forever Extinct. So, when “Losharik” was torpedoed, it is a good example what must we, as a International community, to Japanese poaching ships named “Research”.
What if they have developed a new model working supercavitation drive, that is better than the one for their torpedos, and covers the whole sub? theoretically 5000+ km/hr would be possible.
Had to be something really secret and very special, for all those top dogs to be onboard.
Drives are said to likely be very noisy, so the yanks would definitely have heard it travelling that distance from alaska if so.
That seems to me, to be a possible idea that potentially support it being in alaska and it home port soon after.
With a name like Лошарик, COULD ANYONE HAVE FORESEEN THE INEVITABLE RESULTS??? LOL
I ask the editor of Debka , please dont allow any hate languge from anybody.
Is it a top secret mission ?
It is may be Russia vs USA attack each other ?