The US will still “maintain a presence” after troop pullout from NE Syria
Following the backlash from President Trump’s decision to withdraw US troops from NE Syria, senior administration officials Friday night, Dec. 21 offered Mid East leaders clarifications for allaying their concerns. DEBKAfile’s sources reveal those messages’ high points:
- US troops will leave eastern and northern Syria, but America is not deserting this part of the country, said the officials, without revealing the nature of its continuing presence.
- The Trump administration has not abandoned the Kurds or “stabbed them in the back” as widely reported, “and the Kurds know this,” it was authoritatively said. And, indeed, despite their loud cries of dismay, not a single Syrian Kurdish militiaman has deserted the lines they hold against ISIS in eastern Syria.
- Regarding President Tayyip Erdogan declaration that the Turkish army was about to march on East Euphrates and reach the Kurdish capital of Qamishli, amid fears of a massacre, the US officials advised distinguishing between talk and deeds. They referred to a phone conversation between Presidents Trump and Erdogan on Dec. 14, in which the latter promised his army would not cross the Euphrates. In a speech welcoming the US pullout from Syria on Friday, Erdogan allowed that Turkey would “wait a little longer before launching the operation” and counted on US “logistic support.”
- Trump said subsequently that the troop pullout would be phased out within 40-60 days. According to the US officials, a more realistic timeline would be 4 to 6 months. “During that time, Syria is bound to see many developments that may require Washington to revise its plans.”
- The US and Iraq are in advanced negotiations for the deployment to
the Iraqi-Syria border of the Iraqi Special Operations Forces (ISOF) – the “Golden Division” – which drove ISIS out of Mosul. It will stand in the path of Iranian and Iraqi Shiite militias crossings into Syria.
- Part of the ISOF’s deployment will include the western Iraqi province of Anbar. In this regard, the US officials referred to a disclosure by Mohammad al-Dilemi, one of the chiefs of Anbar’s Arab tribes. On Dec. 12, he said that the US army was building a new base on the line dividing Anbar from the next-door province of Nineveh. It would position US troops 30km north of the Euphrates River and near the Syrian border. This new base will provide the Iraqi division with American backup.
- The officials from Washington refused to confirm or deny that the Russians were involved in the forthcoming US plans for Syria; nor would they refer to a possible US-Turkish-Russian deal on the subject. They did take note of the strides taken in recent weeks toward repairing Russian-Israeli relations. The US officials pointed out that the transfer of a Russian S-300 air defense missile battalion to Deir ez-Zour in eastern Syria brought the Israeli Golan and Galilee Panhandle within their range, but not the Israel Air Force bases in northern and central Israel.
29 thoughts on “The US will still “maintain a presence” after troop pullout from NE Syria”
There is a good chance that in couple years all fighting stops. Reconstruction should not take more that 20 years. Islam is only challenge.
Well they will be paying with Russian money,ROFL,as they wont be getting a penny from the west
unrealistic article. So mattis resigned for nothing? Turkey will not attack the kurds? Iraq special forces cant control inside iraq to pulling iranians out of there, but they will block the path of iran through syria? Russians and iran will not attack deir alzur and other part of eastern syria? Ok cool
This war, and the ones in Afganistan and Yemen, are far from the beauty and simplicity of WW2. That was a time when the state of defeat or the one of victory was to be assumed and carried out as a change by the social contract with an elite. And the more disciplined the people are, the faster and easier the elite orders are implemented. This explains the success of the Marshall plan in Germany and Japan, there people were capable of real discipline.
But, this war is a personal war, there is no elite and people have no experience in defeat, simply because they have only 1 life available. To make things worst, Islam plays an important role in the subconscious and motivation.
One of the finest examples of Debka’s Insight Publications and few to none other Websites and Media Outlets have published these important details. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out, but I am sure of one thing. The Kurdish Culture and People between 25 and 35 million Kurds inhabit the mountainous regions straddling the borders of Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Iran and Armenia.
They are regionally are right in the center making up the 4th largest ethnic group in the Middle East, but they have never obtained a permanent nation state. The Kurds know their People, Regions, and Culture and more importantly have protected for Centuries and not Decades. The Kurds will adjust, adapt, and innovate by any means necessary their Cultures survival and will work with anyone willing to do it with them, against anyone attacking them.
after the publication of the poor decision of Trump and the resign of Mattis and the call Trump did with Erdogan and the opposition he got from the republicans, you manage to paint a beautiful picture that Iraqi, Turkish and Russian forces will take care of Israel security. who do you work for?
Betrayal is a betrayal,no matter how you try to package it. US troops will live and Erdogan will take Manbidge, as he intended from the beginning, but as consolation Kurds will be offered some rump east of Euphrates. Kurds had not too many choices. I am old enough to remember the glorious departure of the Great Atlantic Republic from the roof of the uS embassy in Saigon, and US allies cum boat people who were left to tender mercies of VietCong and tried to escape by all means possible. Only idiot can trust to what USA telling to cover their track
Vietnam was not so much a US op as it was a mil-industrial complex op. Kennedy intended to pull out asap, lbj and his mil-ind buddies wanted to stay and make money. Suggested reading, Prouty’s book “JFK”.
In the 1940s, President Roosevelt was asked to help the France keep Vietnam as a French Indochina Colony and he chose to ignore the requests.
However, President Truman changed that policy and granted $167 Million to the French and put American Advisors into Vietnam plus few know how much France used from The Marshall Plan Funding.
Also, President Eisenhower continued the Truman Policies and expanded them in 1954 after deciding against authorizing an air strike to rescue French Troops from defeat at Dien Bien Phu, avoiding a war in Indochina, though his support for the Anti-Communist Government in South Vietnam would sow the seeds of future U.S. participation in the Vietnam War.
Moreover, President Kennedy approves sending 400 Special Forces troops and 100 other U.S. military advisers to South Vietnam. On the same day, he orders the start of clandestine warfare against North Vietnam to be conducted by South Vietnamese agents under the direction and training of the CIA and U.S. Special Forces troops.
Additionally, in early August 1964, two U.S. destroyers stationed in the Gulf of Tonkin in Vietnam radioed that they had been fired upon by North Vietnamese forces. In response to these reported incidents, President Lyndon B. Johnson requested permission from the U.S. Congress to increase the U.S. military presence in Indochina. The major initiative in the Lyndon Johnson presidency was the Vietnam War. By 1968, the United States had 548,000 troops in Vietnam and had already lost 30,000 Americans there. Johnson’s approval ratings had dropped from 70 percent in mid-1965 to below 40 percent by 1967, and with it, his mastery of Congress. There were increasing problems in the American army in Vietnam.
Furthermore, there was increasing opposition to the war in America. Richard Nixon, who became US president in 1969, began Vietnamisation – pulling US troops out but giving financial support to the South Vietnamese army. Vietnamization was a policy of the Richard Nixon administration to end U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War through a program to “expand, equip, and train South Vietnamese forces and assign to them an ever-increasing combat role, at the same time steadily reducing the number of U.S. combat troops.” e end of the Vietnam War on April 30, 1975, was a much-anticipated and emotionally fraught event for the American public.
Finally, President Gerald Ford’s April 23 speech at Tulane University in New Orleans, announced the end of U.S. involvement in Vietnam complexities of the conflict’s end, with Americans in Saigon requiring evacuation, and the traumatic legacy of the divisive war that was still to be addressed.
Every war scars nations as well as people. Sometimes when a few open wielded sword or a more number of covert swords fail to slay an opponent it is easier for Military Men to ask for more Swords to accomplish a task they cannot complete or won’t solve the problem for long s it is passed down to successors? We shall see how this American Removal of Troops plays out?
Very good Ginger. Eisenhower and Dullis got there support from the anticommunist and anti Russian brigade in the US that still has power. they totally didn’t understand Russia and still doesn’t. russia was more about geography not ideology.
Vietcong were destroyed in the Battle of Hue. It was the North Vietnamese Army (NVA) who invaded South Vietnam 3 years after US forces departed. With the acquiescence of the traitorous Democrats, of course.
Why do you not know the actual history of the Vietnam War and its aftermath and only know the Cultural Marxist ‘Critical Theory’ version ????
Although I agree with you on your comments and facts, it still came down to lack of support for a War that 6 Presidents had to deal with until it ended. The same that another 5 Presidents are dealing with in the Middle East over 30 years and Afghanistan for the last 17 years. I just added how American participation in Vietnam started and ended under each successive President.
More than likely its just a distraction to focus the news and congress on this and not on the Zionist Khazarian House of Saud…
But ye maybe Donnie just happened to do role the dice and end up doing the right thing by bring your troops home.
Maybe he got the idea from Fox News, who cares so long as we start focusing on America on not little whipper snapper Mutts like Israel.
Besides if Israel is scriptural and is Gods Will why would you need our help?
Does God really need American political support, Military support and Treasure lol? Or maybe is this JUST another ZIONCON???
Mattis appears to have objected because he favored the status quo. 2000 US soldiers were at risk and the DOD did not want to send more, nor did our allies. In fact the globalists have screwed Syria in their seeking a deal with Iran. The DOD even worked with Iranian militias to attack ISIS in Iraq.
As Debka is now talking about things they should have known days ago, Trump is returning to a more counterinsurgency and counter-terrorism policy as Israel moves forward with hypersonic missiles. Lost here is getting Erdogan to turn down Russian air defense. He has done more to save NATO which Netanyahu understands. The Kurds could easily receive advanced weapons and Trump never said he would stand by as the Russians or Iranians go for the oil.
One would think KSA, Egypt, Jordan and others could easily put forward 2000 soldiers. It is appalling however to listen to some here say despicable things about the US. One cannot say Israeli foreign policy is error-free. We lost 57,000 soldiers in Vietnam prevented from escalating the conflict with much harsher policies. 60 years ago the US told Russia we would nuke their forces near Turkey should they conduct operations from Syria against Turkey.
One would think Israelis a bit sharper on the strategy going on here. It involves far more than Syria.
Thank You, Trump, for Getting Out of Syria
Suddenly, amid the sea of disgust, ridicule and anger that Donald Trump provokes, the U.S. president has made a decision that inspires hope – the withdrawal from Syria. Faced with the chorus of wails from Israel, which of course also includes more than a little schadenfreude directed at Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, we have to say thank you to Trump. Thank you for a decision that will ultimately benefit Israel, the United States and the region.
Not only did the president keep his promise, not only is he continuing his predecessor’s wise policy, but even for Israel, his decision, which has naturally been depicted here as calamitous, bodes well. It will force Israel to stand on its own two feet and reduce both its intoxication with power and its excessive strength, which are extremely destructive for both Israel and the region. This decision promises to bring Israel back down to the ground, at least in Syria. Syria first.
Israel’s reliance on its enormous military might and its belief that power will solve everything, combined with unreserved American support, hasn’t been good for Israel. We can only hope that the withdrawal from Syria heralds a change in direction for the Americans, not just a hasty, one-time decision.
If so, Trump will become a true friend of Israel, one who cares a great deal more about its future than everyone who arms and finances it – its false friends. Like a father who decides to end his bear hug of his spoiled child so the child will learn to cope with reality, maybe Trump will free Israel from America’s harmful aegis, a honey trap that has corrupted it to the core.
Since World War II, U.S. military interventions have usually caused cruel and unnecessary mass bloodshed. Peace and freedom are the declared goals of Washington’s wars, but those wars have never produced these ends. From Korea to Syria, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq, these conflicts have left millions of people killed in vain.
The article continues
Isaiah 17 King James Version (KJV)
* (Damascus Nuked Overnight)
17 The burden of Damascus.
Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.
2 The cities of Aroer are forsaken: they shall be for flocks, which shall lie down, and none shall make them afraid.
3 The fortress also shall cease from Ephraim, and the kingdom from Damascus, and the remnant of Syria: they shall be as the glory of the children of Israel, saith the Lord of hosts.
4 And in that day it shall come to pass, that the glory of Jacob shall be made thin, and the fatness of his flesh shall wax lean.
5 And it shall be as when the harvestman gathereth the corn, and reapeth the ears with his arm; and it shall be as he that gathereth ears in the valley of Rephaim.
6 Yet gleaning grapes shall be left in it, as the shaking of an olive tree, two or three berries in the top of the uppermost bough, four or five in the outmost fruitful branches thereof, saith the Lord God of Israel.
7 At that day shall a man look to his Maker, and his eyes shall have respect to the Holy One of Israel.
8 And he shall not look to the altars, the work of his hands, neither shall respect that which his fingers have made, either the groves, or the images.
9 In that day shall his strong cities be as a forsaken bough, and an uppermost branch, which they left because of the children of Israel: and there shall be desolation.
10 Because thou hast forgotten the God of thy salvation, and hast not been mindful of the rock of thy strength, therefore shalt thou plant pleasant plants, and shalt set it with strange slips:
11 In the day shalt thou make thy plant to grow, and in the morning shalt thou make thy seed to flourish: but the harvest shall be a heap in the day of grief and of desperate sorrow.
12 Woe to the multitude of many people, which make a noise like the noise of the seas; and to the rushing of nations, that make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters!
13 The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.
14 And behold at eveningtide trouble; and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us. — Holy Bible
The Bible is a book full of all the old M/East hallucinations. They are still relevant to the new era and are applicable to any event or development depending on how you think. People have a tendency to lean on a heavenly something when they are out of tricks to explain their overwhelming dilemmas. Hadi Eid Ph.D.
Jeremiah 49:34-39 King James Version (KJV)
(Understand Elam – Iran has Operational Nuke Plants / Missiles)
34 The word of the Lord that came to Jeremiah the prophet against Elam in the beginning of the reign of Zedekiah king of Judah, saying,
35 Thus saith the Lord of hosts; Behold, I will break the bow of Elam, the chief of their might.
36 And upon Elam will I bring the four winds from the four quarters of heaven, and will scatter them toward all those winds; and there shall be no nation whither the outcasts of Elam shall not come.
37 For I will cause Elam to be dismayed before their enemies, and before them that seek their life: and I will bring evil upon them, even my fierce anger, saith the Lord; and I will send the sword after them, till I have consumed them:
38 And I will set my throne in Elam, and will destroy from thence the king and the princes, saith the Lord.
39 But it shall come to pass in the latter days, that I will bring again the captivity of Elam, saith the Lord.
Interesting that the Golan is within range of the S-300s, but not northern or central Israeli airbases. Means that Israel probably will not attack anyone by way of the Golan (translation:Syria), but have to go through Lebanon or Jordanian airspace. Even the Easter Mediterranean won’t offer safe passage, since the Russian military controls much of the coast. Entering Lebanese air space risks antagonizing Hezbollah, and Jordan, risking accusations that Jordan is allowing the IAF to combat the Shiites using Sunni territory.
This is a new battle field that is emerging. Electronic warfare and air defense crosses borders and weapon sensors must be invulnerable and speed critical. The real war going on involves what’s going to be safe. 1 B-52 can lay down a line of mines that makes it unsafe for subs or their torpedoes. A B-21 will deliver swarms of drones. The arms race here favors the allies provided China can be slowed in stealing. Trump loves electronic curtains but doesn’t like unnecessary trip wires. He wants to break the enemy’s electronic curtain and deliver strikes with our own http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/25618/joint-threat-emitters-train-pilots-how-to-defeat-enemy-air-defenses-and-the-usaf-wants-more The threat of missiles comes from many directions for Israel. For Iranian, Syrian and Russian assets in Syria, even more so. I rather doubt the Israelis would operate a 2000 man force in Syria; it would either be larger or covert. New advanced artillery, hypersonics, drones will turn the next stage coming into largely a shooting war and defensive technology. The military in Israel and the US understand this. As Glick points out, Trump’s move ended the Obama policy in Syria without the military force that only Trump allowed towards Russian mercs and Assad. This has been to Iran’s advantage and those crying about Trump helping Iran, what did the past policies do? Trump may end support for Lebanon given the assistance going to Hizb’Allah. Who is going to police the Eastern Med, German subs?
A smart guy always acts, don’t ever let a 99% chance fool you, anything that can possibly maybe perhaps go wrong, does!
How could I wait for possibly maybe perhaps America to shut down starting a week before the holidays? No way man! All those days of wife following in the shopping tours, blah!
I’m bar friends with a good police, I got my drivers license suspension a week ago. Now there is no don’t drink and drive slogans to my ear, and more important no shopping tours. Ha!
But, I appreciate mister Trump’s help for fellow men, even if limited and a little too late.
You could mistakenly believe this is damn Liberal’s lie, but no, the shut down came from a WOMAN, that’s right, a woman. Anyhow, some sort of very old witch with dress resembling to a woman, Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).
She then dubbed “the Trump Government Shutdown.” But not before a week long shopping spree, 44 new pairs of shoes each a different color, crystals for therapy healing, pink pyjamas with swans, and boxes of therapy scent candles.
This is how it “appeared” to go down to the average man on the street. Erdogoon calls Trump and tells him to get out of Syria so Turkey can invade Syria and slaughter the Kurds. Trump immediately obeys Erdogoon and orders all of our troops out in 30 days and makes no provisions to protect the Kurds. Mattis quits in protest, and the word on the street is that “all” of Trump’s top military commanders are thinking about quitting. Trump realizes he f’d up and his base was ready to abandon him, so he makes some moves to help the Kurds and the FSA back to safety. My question is: if we don’t watch Trump closely, will he abandon all of our allies if Pootler, ASSad, Erdogoon, or other totalitarians tell him to? Lord, I hope not.
DONNIE IS WEAK SPIRITUALLY AND A BULLY. HANGING YOUR HOPES ON THIS CLOWN IS FOOLISH AND PATHETIC.
Is this the same “Tiger” forces that got routed by ISIS for two years in northwestern Syria before the Kurds saved them? Are they led by the same Russian “Spetsnaz” soldiers who also got their behinds kicked by ISIS in northern Syria? So now, after the Kurds saved everybody’s bass, these “Tiger” forces are marching in after the battles are over? Nice try, but we all know the truth. They are a parade group that needs a marching band to be complete.
Trump s a step a ahead of all of you…
He strikes only when necessary and doesn’t give warning…he has said so explicitly…go ahead and continue your guessing and belittling of him and you won’t know what hit you…
Trump is a WAY better friend to Israel than any bush or establishment GOP
Trump has his family wed into Jews that favor the Chabad organization’s philanthropy which is outstanding ( this group often turns secular leftist Jews into humble traditional conservatives)
Trump always seems to appear to be one step ahead of everyone, but that’s not always the case. Sometimes, he reacts belatedly. Mattis resigned and said why. Trump got mad over a couple of days and finally told Mattis to leave earlier than Mattis was planning to. Okay, so Trump gets the last word. That’s his nature. But saying that Trump is some sort of “sleeper” genius is taking it too far.
Trump speech and promises not worth a farthing .
YES, YES and Israel VOWS to intensify Israeli strikes against Syria after US withdrawal, RIGHT… just wait an see what this BRAVE Jew army will do!
Now defunct US envoy to Syria James Jeffrey says America will use and turn on its own creations when it is convenient for them.
Saudi Arabia has now agreed to spend the necessary money needed to help rebuild Syria, instead of the United States. See? Isn’t it nice when immensely wealthy countries help rebuild their neighbors rather than a Great Country, the U.S., that is 5000 miles away. Thanks to Saudi A! ~ Trump
The United Nations General Assembly has overwhelmingly voted in favor of a resolution on the permanent sovereignty of Syria over natural resources of the Israeli-occupied Syrian Golan Heights. 157-7
Erdogan Does Not Object To Damascus’s Control Over Al-Hasaka: The Kurds Choose Between Loyalty To Syria Or Defeat By Turkey
Welcome to the Age of Aquarius.
Comments are closed.