While the UN voted, Jerusalem’s fate was determined in Riyadh and Abu Dhabi
At UN Center in New York, a resolution condemning Donald Trump for recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital won a 128 majority of 193 member-states at the General Assembly, with 9 votes against, 25 abstentions and 21 absentees on Thursday, Dec. 21. This was a less than satisfactory outcome for the Palestinians, who had expected their usual success in sweeping the international board. The Trump administration fought back by threatening to hit opponents in the pocket and Ambassador Nikki Haley’s powerful eloquence did the rest.
DEBKAfile’s sources noticed, however, that, although the Palestinians had defined this vote as “fateful” for Jerusalem, Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas was conspicuously absent from his delegation’s corner. DEBKAfile’s sources picked him up 11,000 kilometers away at the Abu Dhabi palace of UAE Crown Prince Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed (MbZ). Instead of collecting international pats on the back for the majority UN vote, he had been forced to endure a dressing-down from one of the most powerful and wealthy Arab leaders, who told him in no uncertain terms: The international struggle for Jerusalem is no doubt important and the UAE will of course be behind you. But first, you must stop beating on Donald Trump’s Jerusalem policy as though it is a declaration of war. Furthermore, Sheikh bin Zayed insisted, you had better break off ties this instant with Tayyip Erdogan, the Turkish president, and distance yourselves from his anti-American abuse.
Abbas had been summoned to Riyadh the day before, where he was given an audience with King Salman. But before he was out of the palace door, Saudi Crown Prince Muhammed bin Salman gave him a bawling out which presaged the one he received in Abu Dhabi. Both Arab rulers made it abundantly clear to Mahmoud Abbas that to win their support on Jerusalem, he will have to back away fast from the front he has opened up with Erdogan against President Trump and the United States. The fate of Jerusalem was therefore determined Thursday in the Arabian Gulf region rather than New York where the UN vote was little more than a formality.
Somebody needs to shoot the f’ing shithead lunatic erDOGan already
I swear, if he comes to the US with his goons and attacks US citizens again, the armed American public will shoot them ourselves…
While I don’t usually respond to these types of comments, I just want to point out – a little over a year ago, on a warm mid-July night, it almost happened. Nobody knows for sure why he lived – there were rumors that unknown fighter aircraft were at one point behind his personal plane but inexplicably did not fire – but everyone agrees that as far as the rebels were concerned, the fact that Erdogan survived and was immediately able to rally pro-government forces was the first and last mistake that would be made that night.
I believe that was determined to be an ex NATO general who went rogue and attempted a coup.
At least, two of his thugs who hit people protesting against his visit to the US got a prison term. And hopefully, those roaches will be strangled at the the jail.
Its all obvious. Trump and Pence are on the offensive and will win. There is a good chance America will be Great Again.
Why do you insist calling Persian Gulf an arabian gold.
Haven’t you been in school .?
Why are you disregarding the historial fact and documentation?
You are therefore biast and not a fair solid reporter with internal motivations.
You are therefore disregardibg truth and have become a political speaker of other governments.
Shame on you for ignoring the fact.
Googles maps name this event #Persian Gulf (also known as the Arabian Gulf)#
As an American it feels good to be condemned by this histrionic and superfluous body.
This is a mistake for America geo politically and strategically. I support Israel over the savages but we gained nothing from this decision and lost out and inflamed tensions for no reason. We also increased the odds that some in the Mideast will further consider pivoting towards the Chinese/Russian power axis. Those who fail to think in a cold logical Machiavellian manner have no business even commenting on geo political affairs. Cold logical thinking trumps emotional based responses in the geo political world. We gained nothing strategically, politically, or diplomatically from this decision. One of many reasons China is crushing us because they understand this and act upon it.
Trump’s Jerusalem decision makes it abundantly clear to the Palestinians: time works against you, make peace with Israel or fade into full irrelevance.
” We gained nothing strategically, politically, or diplomatically from this decision.”
@Batman,
If it should come to pass, at some point in the future, that a majority of nations have their embassies to Israel located in their capital———–and we were the first to do so, would you still be able to make your comment shown above?
Politicians do not normally follow through on promises but Trump does. Speaking truth to insanity and evil is important. The US will gain respect on the international scene even if they back terrorists over the civilized. Why would you think making making bad decisions to appease Ergogan, Nassralah, Anbas, ISIS, Hezbollah – Iran, Hamas, etc., improves US sttategic position in the world? Obama tried that and it has led to 500,000 dead in 6 years. Only fools get into bed with those who want the West dead and gone. All must be done to inflame them to the point that they distort each other with their own evil intentions and beliefs.
In the following paragraph “they” refers to the ones at UN who voted to disregard reality and vote against the step taken to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital: “The US will gain respect on the international scene even if they back terrorists over the civilized.”
The majority of the uneducated citizens of the world will not understand (or choose to be ignorant of the fact) that even the Sanhedrin had claimed this UN vote would be a historical issue that will unleash God’s blessings and curses upon the nations of the world. Those who are not included in the 8 that had sided with the US on the issue will now face God’s curse, as it is stated in Genesis 12:3 as well as other parts of scripture. And while there will most certainly be people who disagree with this, or may even laugh at this, their opinions most definitely do not matter at all.
Amen!
It is almost like God was waiting for what there vote would be.
Ezekiel 38 and 39 and the destruction of Damascus from Isaiah 17 can not be far away
We r sitting in Zechariah 12 vs 3
We r watching prophecy being fulfilled before r eyes
God is good and His Word will reign forever and ever
Amen!
Inflamed tensions? They are paper tigers.
“As an American it feels good to be condemned by this histrionic and superfluous body.”
@eddielaidler,
Two thumbs up to that one!
Debka should have a way to give your post an “up” vote because you would certainly get one from me!
This is wrong. Abbas was there to visit the camels he had made mad love to many years ago. He remembers it all quite fondly
Abbas went to see Jim Carrols mom the tranny. What dirty kike whore.
Israel, Honduras, Togo, U.S., Palau, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, Guatemala”
The best “friends” US bribe money could buy. What a joke. You can only fool the crooked US politicians, most of the world knows the truth.
Hi-Ya Karate chop your stupidity Bruce Lee. To group the US and Israel in with the others you named shows that you are either a retard or just simply and willingly ignorant in your knowledge of the mentioned regions. Either way, you came off like a champ with Israels Arab squatters for being so spitefully hate-full. I urge you to actually look at the history of the regions before you chirp next time but hey, you are totally entitled to your own views that I would never deny for fear of being just like the Arab squatters and those that support them!
“—————- most of the world knows the truth.”
Most of the world knows the “truth” which the Palestinians dictated to them.
Fortunately most of the world not stupid, after they doing same fact check, what Palestinian have dictated sound more reasonable than what Israelis dictated.
What will Palestinians do with another state of their own? They have already destroyed Gaza (obviously you do not destroy your people if you want a viable state) and in Jordan the “Palestinians” have not risen up against the midget tyrant-King in Gucci suits (Abdullah II) who is the real oppressor of “Palestinians.”
Could it be that “Palestinians” really want an endless conflict so that the steadily increasing endless payments they receive are never stopped? In that the EU and UN agree – they will keep “Palestinians-without-pride” on the dole forever and it plays into EU-UN antismeitism which has morphed from all-out Holocaust annihilation to a terror war using the EU, OIC and UN proxies, the “Pallestinians,” to wipe out Israel.
Watching you fake jews melt down and self destruct has been great. So, obviously, it’s days numbered for the golden calf of Zionism, the lawless one, the Zionist atomic project in Palestinian Suriyah, and Amalek, those called the first of the nations, and the house of Israel has come to them. So, woe to you who are at ease in Zion and to you who are secure in the mountain of Samaria…
Ivan the Terrible and Bruce the little brain Lee, 2/3 of nations voted against Jerusalem. That means that 1/3 of nations will survive the ongoing WW III. The 2/3 will completely perish by their infighting. Europe is long overdue for total destruction. The “lawless”, “atomic” Zionists will have no problem with this outcome. Jim Carrol is wrong about little old Abbas and the camels. The poor camels were exhausted for your whore mother, you are the proud product of this bestial love affair. Merry Christmas!
Loser mentality. Don’t be upset, the whole world is been against you since day one. Deceit and lies is all you ever had.
Yes Bruce, every little dictator/politician in this “whole world” is afraid of our eternal Bible. No matter how terribly this “whole world” had persecuted the Jews for thousands of years, the Jews are still here, will be here forever and that is frightening to the world. It means every movement or religion are inferior to Judaism. You may as well hang yourself now, the Jews will never completely perish in your GULAGs, ovens or any other “whole world’s” moronic “inventions”. No one can extinguish the liberation spirit in a Zionist heart. This heart is never confused by the “whole world”. The Egyptians, the Babylonians, the Greeks, the Romans, the Christians, the Nazis, the Communists, the Muslims could not destroy the eternal Jew. I don’t blame the “whole world” feeling real stupid, no great Greek philosopher, no Jesus or Mohamed, no Marx/Lenin, no Hitler could entice the Jew to abandon his religion and the place to worship it i.e. Jerusalem.
“———— no great Greek philosopher, no Jesus or Mohamed, no Marx/Lenin, no Hitler could entice the Jew to abandon his religion and the place to worship it i.e. Jerusalem.”
@Un,
It’s not really known what the Rabbi Jesus actually said since, to date, nothing physically has been found that he himself actually wrote down and all that is claimed that he said was written by people who were not actually there to hear him say it. The Rabbi Jesus may not actually have said anything about the Jewish people needing to “abandon their religion” but distortions may well have been created by people——-an entire generation later——with an agenda of their own. As for the others you mentioned, their agendas were all too obvious.
“Loser mentality. Don’t be upset, the whole world is been against you since day one. Deceit and lies is all you ever had.”
@Bruce Lee,
Based on your posts, that sounds like your describing your very own style quite well!
All of israel has pleasured your Sharmouta Mother and she has pleasured all. Thank you For her!!!
Another retarded Arab Squatter thinking palestine and palestinian are actually historical things when in fact there is no history to support them. I can;t even bring myself to capitalize the fake words that they are
128 nations told isis-real to fuck off!
why do you criticize your isis brothers,i bet one of those is fucking your whore mother since day one,that is why you are a the son of a pork
And your Sharmouta Mother asked us all to fuck on.
And then the leftist fascists like you will go riding off into the sunset holding hands with your Islam-fascist friends and all will be well in the world, right iVaN? Good luck bud with that – you will likely be over-taken and butchered by your Islam-fascist “friends.”
Eat shit russian, no one cares what you communists say. You guys are small dicks with big mouths, nothing more.
Most of those 128 countries are muslim or dominated by leftist governments who are busy destroying their own countries by filling them with muslim terrorists, rapists and fake refugees. If they want to do something about Israel they can mount an army against Israel and all will die for their trouble. Israel has the capacity to finish all its enemies off too, and political efforts to achieve the same haven’t worked and wont work, either. People can accept the reality or remain losers. Looks like there’s a lot of losers..
Ok fyi, those countries whom was abstain just left Canada, Argentina, Philippines as serious countries and also call that US move was harming peace process. You can call others whatever’s you want and just keep burried your head. China, Russia, UK and France is not islamist nor leftist
“———–UK and France is not islamist nor leftist”
@worldcitizen,
Consider the immigrant populations both France and the UK allowed into their countries———there’s no point in being so naive!
BTW———one can’t think of anything further to the left than the Labor Party in the UK——-except for the Communists!
In Canada we have an Islamophile Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, who is almost as bad as Obama – he visits and accepts gifts from islamic leaders like the Aga Khan!
Just because a country is not Islamic does not mean that they are not led by pro-Islamist leftists (who are quite a common phenomenon these days). Leftists are so pacifist that they need Islamist terrorists to do their dirty work of destroying Western democracies.
“Jerusalem’s fate was determined in Riyadh and Abu Dhabi”. that says it all.
“Jerusalem’s fate was determined in Riyadh and Abu Dhabi”. that says it all.”
@Bruce Lee,
Jerusalem’s fate was determined by the Jewish people over 3000 years ago———–long before Riyadh and Abu Dhabi were ever conceived!
Dave, you seems very upset with this UN result. Sinai was Jewish area too according to some zealots, but what happen , the Super Power Israel give the Sinai back to Egyptian, afraid ? You must be have your own story about Sinai, maybe back to 3000 – 8000 years ago, tell me Dave
Camel prick lover
You were conceived in a brothel by many men (and a few donkeys)
What has really changed since the UN remained absolutely silent when Palestinians rejected the 1948 Partition Plan and “invited” Arab Leauge armies to “push the Jews
Into the Sea” ?
What has really changed since the Shoah when European nations object to
declaring Jerusalem the Capitol of Israel and home of the Jewish people ?
What has really happened is that for the first time since 1948 there is a US
President that supports Israel and admires the Jewish people .
Because your narrative is false and wrong. At that time Palestinian were slaughtered, terrorized by Zionist thugs (Irgun & Stern gang’s). Arab didn’t came to attack but to stop Palestinian massacre, but as usual, Israel twisting the story and make his own narratives, fortunately the world still know the true story.
“Arab didn’t came to attack but to stop Palestinian massacre, but as usual, Israel twisting the story and make his own narratives, fortunately the world still know the true story.”
@worldcitizen,
B-U-L-L-F-E-A-T-H-E-R-S !
The surrounding Arab armies all descended on Israel to slaughter the entire Jewish population and take ALL of the land of Israel for their own!
Just keep repeating your lies, you will believe it a truth someday, but only you, lol
world citizen of my ass,it is because beasts of your type that israel was created ,and hence the conflict with the palestinians
@Dave, @aymar, then why you always wondered when world opinion in majority against Israel policy/narratives. It’s mean something wrong with Israel, but you won’t admit it and choose to blame others. Simple analogy, everybody must be hate thievery and lying behavior no matter what theirs religions. of course the thieve always have an excuse.
of course,there were acts of brutality and thefts in 1948,and what do you think happens in this area made of monkeys of your type?is is a holiday club?
Trump is a great president, for sure. But to say he is the first, is doing injustice to another great president – Lyndon B. Johnson. If you were around during the 6 day war and the arms build up that preceded it, you would remember. LBJ gave Golda everything she asked for. And this wasn’t too long after the U.S. had an embargo on Israel (Eisenhuer).
To bad their little scheme didn’t play out as they had planned. The USS Liberty got the word out that they were under Israeli attack instead of Egyptian and the US bombers on their way to nuke Cairo were called back. And as a result of that the US didn’t feel comfortable enough on the geopolitical scene to fully back Israel and fight together with them against the Arab nations. And consequently the IDF wasn’t able to advance to their coveted Nile west bank.
Reminds me of a saying: Evil carries the seed of it’s own demise.
Another Jew hating false narrative specially prepared for rum soaked community college drop outs still wanting to pretend they have intellect. The Liberty incident occurred in the fog of war. Israeli Prime Minister Levi Eshkol apologized directly to LBJ. Israel paid the U.S. government compensation for property damage, and compensation to families of those killed or injured. Surely the great “civilization” of Iran took similar action after the 1979 hostage crisis, right Mr. iIntellect “Govermind”?
OK, so Moscow, Beijing, the Vatican, Brussels, Tehran and Ankara will have nothing to say on this topic? Get ready to be surprised!
45 years ago, I asked my Jewish friend “Why does The USA support Israel?” He replied, it is very simple, American’s love winners and Israel wins. I can understand why the Palestinians are so angry, their land was taken from them without being compensated. But Americans love winners and the Israelis are winners. Women are treated equally and they are a democracy.That is EVERYTHING America believes in. Actually it is not complicated, it is very simple. An observation from a man in Montana, USA.
Nice. Like you took the land from native Indians. If we were to consider the same logic as the Israelis do that they were her before the others, then why dont we apply the same logic to the Indians who were before the European invasion of their land and give back the USA to them ? Don’t you forget that the Philistines in the Bible are the ancestors of the Palestinians now.
“Palestinians” are not Philistines. The Philistines, who were of Mycanean origin, not Arab. were wiped out by Sennacherib the Assyrian around 730 BC. Rome coined the term “Palestina” in the aftermath of what they called the Third Jewish War around 135AD, as a means of wiping the troublesome province of Judea off the map, and to mock the Jews, by renaming their province with a bastardization of the Jews’ long time vanquished nemesis. Today’s so-called “Palestinians” are Bedouin Arabs given that designation after WWII.
Well, since Christianity and Islam are relatively new religions I suspect the Palestinian ancestors adhered to various other local religions. They have a stronger relation to the old Semitic tribes then the Khazarian Judaic people of whom most converted to Judaism only somewhere between 800 A.D. and 1800 A.D.
Ah yes, time for a little fake history by trotting out the old “all European Jews are ‘Khazars’ ” tale, specially cooked up for Jew haters by the Jew hating court of the Jew hating Romanovs, eh Mr. Jew hater “Govermind”?
And again, Jew hating ignoramus, the Philistines were of Greek stock, not Semitic. Philistine translated meant from the sea. They originated from Mycaene, not Arabia.
The mantra is broken. The UN no longer pretends to have the power to go against its Charter to try to impose a solution on Israel to the benefit of the various political Arab shadow organizations who seek to undermine the security of the nation of Israel.
“An independent state of Palestine with its capital in Jerusalem” is now a broken slogan. The Palestinians have nothing to negotiate with to get even a single of its demands met.
Any agreement would vastly degrade the quality of life the Palestinians now enjoy under Israeli protection. The longest life expectancy, the highest literacy rate, the best health care of any Arab or Muslim-led nation in the world is what Palestinians enjoy.
It is seventy years too late for any ‘two-state’ solution or any ‘shared’ or ‘international’ status for Jerusalem. It was obvious in 1948 that only Israel was ready for self-rule – and that Arab intransigence violated the fundamentals of the UN Charter.
Bill Clinton’s support to bring Arafat and 20,000 terrorists and their families to Israel was a colossal mistake. It will take a hundred years to undo the propaganda effect of what such a large infusion of psychopathy created.
Some respected countries voted against the US though….Whether Abbas will take all his orders from Salman is moot. Sure, he will have to appease the money fountains but the question is what is the real mood of the Palestinian people on the subject and where Hamas is on the matter as well…. Abbas will need to show something in return to his people for Trump’s decision on Jerusalem before he takes his orders. Hopefully someone has a handle on what Salman the impulsive pushes Abbas for.
Hold on a cotton-pickin’ minute… two of the Arab Sunni Muslim world’s most important and wealthiest royalty figures, one of whom is the guardian of their holy shrine in Mecca, dressed down Abu Mazen, the Sunni “Palestinian” leader, by instructing him to jettison his fellow Sunni Muslim brother from Turkey and instead embrace the American infidel Crusader-in-Chief???
Not sure what you folks at Debka and your “sources” are smoking these days, but it’s dangerous hallucinogenic properties are painfully apparent. See medical addiction professionals at once!
This is all being done to create untold inflammation on the world in an attempt to ignite WW3. Once the match is thrown on the dry haystack, it will ROAR. This entire decision was planned, and you know by whom. It has had the intended result. Get ready for what Nostradamus called TERROR TERROR TERROR.
OK, Israel, you lost on this vote. Face it and accept defeat. The countries who voted against the resolution were Mictonesia, Palau and other little islands. Trump and Bibi are on their own and that is clear. But… It satisfied Trump’s evangelical fruitcakes base in deep America. That is all.
Zorg: So if some enemies of yours voted to take away your home because they want your land and don’t like your face…and you lost, then by your above recommendations you ought to face reality and move away or self-destruct. Many countries and billions of people will be constantly displaced if we accept your “progressive” logic, Zorg!
Sorry, but the fate of Jerusalem wasn’t detemined by Saudi Arabia or Abu Dhabi, it was determined long ago by God.
Some will say this is prophesy, not logic. What a foolish mistake. There is a total lack of logic in the issue being brought up for a vote at the UN since the issue is bilateral. The condamnation is in itself more miraculous than scandlous, it is obviously a divine decree. One that spells trouble for those irresponsible and corrupt mafia governments. Long live the King of the Universe and his trusted Monarchs.
Bully for Trump and Haley. So what if we “upset” the whole world? They hate us anyway. POTUS is simply putting global thuggery on notice that we will not cower in their presence any longer. Leftists may cringe at the thought, but we are the only hope on the planet for the continuation of liberty. God help us if we abdicate our responsibility.
Bruce Lee was conceived in a brothel when his Sharmouta Mother broke the house record for servicing Men and donkeys.
Artık uluslararası hukuk ve kurallar işe yaramıyor galiba.Olmanız gereken sınırlara döner ve kanunsuz uygulamalardan vazgeçerseniz daha güvende olacağınız kesin . Bunu Filistinliler size bir tehdit oluşturduğu için söylemiyorum tum dünyada nefret topluyorsunuz bu ıyı bırsey olamasa gerek. Baksanıza bizim Ülkemiz için bile neler soyuyorsunuz Türkiye’nin çoğunluğun mevcut iktidarla aynı fikirde değil aynı sizde olduğu gibi ama ortak fikrimiz Filistin konusunda acımasızca ve kanunsuz davrandığınız. Bizim gibi İsrailliler ve Yahudiler konusunda ön yargısız ve size sempatiyle yaklaşan bir toplumu bile kendinizle ihtilaflı duruma sokmayı basardınız. Siz simdi diyebilirsiniz ki bizi ilgilendirmiyorsunuz siz kimsiniz o sizin bileceğiniz bir şey ama siz böyle davrandıkça bu sorun bitmeyecek ve dahada can sıkıcı olacaktır sizin için. Bu arada her ne kadar tüm politik kararını doğru bulmasakta Erdoğan diye hakaret ve nefret dolu ifadeler kullanmaya devam ederseniz bu ülkenin tümünü karşınıza alırsınız çünkü o bizim ülkemizin cumhurbaşkanıdır. bu ülkenin hiç bir vatandaşı bunu onaylamayacaktır. Unutmayın ki biz Arap yada Filistinli de değiliz daha dikkatli konuşmanızı tavsiye ederiz.
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