Will Israel do what it takes to degrade Hamas after 400 rockets?
Israel’s deterrent strength is on the line after the Palestinian Hamas fired more than 400 rockets in 5 and-a-half hours on Monday, Nov. 12. After their massive barrage, Hamas and its terrorist allies threatened to expand their targets beyond the South if the Israel air force on missions in Gaza Monday night goes beyond its routine tit-for-tat reprisals against empty buildings in the Gaza Strip.
An escalation of violence is therefore unavoidable in the next hours. It is up to the IDF to switch its tactics to attacks that cause the Palestinian terrorists real pain. Monday night, the IDF dropped small rockets on the Hamas Al Aqsa TV channel building in Gaza City as a warning of the coming bombardment. The building was evacuated before it was demolished and their were no casualties. Israeli jets and drones went on to strike more buildings in Gaza City and Rafah, still within the usual norms, while Hamas confined its rocket launches to the South, although an anti-tank missile on an Israeli bus in the afternoon occurred minutes after 50 soldiers debarked, and could have caused a massacre. One of the soldiers was critically hurt.
Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and his security and military chiefs are convinced that if the air force starts seriously attacking Hamas’ missile stores and the residences of its leaders, then the rockets will start exploding in Tel Aviv.
At the end of a top-level security assessment of the Gaza crisis, led by the prime minister on Monday it was announced that “operational decisions had been reached” and the security cabinet would resume the discussion on Tuesday. DEBKAfile’s military sources deduced from this comment that no final decision had yet been reached for the IDF to embark on a serious ground operation to cut down the terrorist forces plaguing Israel from the Gaza Strip. It is hard to believe that they are still hesitating after hundreds of thousands of civilians were hammered by 400 missiles, confined to small shelters with their children, and 50 soldiers escaped harm by a hair.
For a successful large-scale military operation of this kind, two things are essential:
- Firm resolve to achieve a clearly-defined target.
- Concentration of a sufficiency of armed military strength ready to go
Since all those in authority have been barred from making public statements, it is hard to estimate whether Netanyahu and Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Gady Eisenkot have finally dropped their insistence on avoiding a major conflict in the Gaza Strip on the grounds that, after it is over, Israel will be back where it started. Countering this argument, critics say: Yes, but Israel will have regained the whip hand and be able to enforce a long period of calm. A former Deputy Chief of Staff, Maj. Gen (res) Yair Golan has dismissed the current Netanyahu-Eisenkot position as “unwillingness to win the battle.”
This unwillingness is challenged by a determined opponent. Yahya Sinwar is Hamas’ one-man decision-maker. It is he who runs the war on Israel. So long as he sees Israeli planes attacking empty buildings in the Gaza Strip, he will continue to turn the screw on the Netanyahu government for more concessions and a steady supply of cash and fuel against empty promises of calm. This strategy works perfectly. Last week, Qatar delivered $15m in cash to Hamas in the Gaza Strip and Israel began running convoys of fuel tankers into Gaza. And yet, on Friday, Hamas staged its regular mob assaults on the Israeli troops defending the Gaza-Israeli border fence and unleashed this incredible rocket barrage.
This situation is untenable. It can only be altered if the IDF changes its tactics and goes for targets of military value and hits Hamas armed wing’s actual locations without prior warning. If Israel is ready for a real showdown with Hamas on those lines, it has a good chance of winning the current round with the Palestinian terrorists, regaining its deterrence and achieving a lengthy period of calm for the battered population of the south.
It is time to invade all hamas territories and Gaza. I would move the border out 20 more miles into Lebanon and Syria.. Yes, It would make Iran and Russia to take action and now this be war. United States will then attack Syria.
Israel is unable to bear the phony tears from those in the west (who want it destroyed) that arise from civilian casualties. It is utterly impossible to fight an urban war without massive civilian casualties. Every country in the world will have demonstrations decrying the brutal Israelis and with endless images of wailing mothers clutching their “dead” babies, taken who knows where. It is trivial for Israel to cut off electricity, water, food, and to disrupt all forms of electronic communication. It is equally trivial for Israel to reduce Gaza into rubble as the Russians did in Grozny. But Israel considers itself to be far too moral a country to destroy civilians and faux civilians in Gaza. Israel cannot tolerate bad press. Proponents of freedom everywhere have the same problem, the truth is not an effective defense against the massive unremitting lying of the left.
One suggestion is to emulate the bible. Implore Hamas to leave the Israelites alone. Failure to do so will have consequences, just as pharoah’s failure to leave the Israelites alone did. Each missile fired or fire balloon that arrives in Israeli territory results in a deterrent period. The deterrent periods gradually increase. First infraction is an hour, second infraction within a month is 2 hours and so on. If there are no attacks in 6 months the penalty period is reset. The penalties also increase, for the first N infractions the penalty is BLOOD, all water supplies are replace by blood (from slaughter houses, fish, etc., (maybe this entails purchases from other countries). The next infractions triggers DARKNESS. Electricity ceases at sunset and remains off for the penalty period.
The other plagues are of dubious value and/or technologically too difficult to implement. New plagues could be substituted. Air delivered blister beetles are a possible substitute for BOILS. Pests more suitable for the Gazan climate could replace lice, flies and frogs. Bedbugs could be distributed by air. The border would need to be dusted with DDT. Ticks, spiders and scorpions are other possibilities. There would be no way to undo or turn off pests. Once present there they are regardless of the deterrent period. Perhaps the number and variety of pests delivered increases as the deterrent periods increase.
Such actions will inevitably be condemned as inhuman by leftists and jihadists but in response they are actually pretty humane and anyway Israel is just following divine wisdom to the best of its ability. Israel is of course interested in hearing from anyone who has a better idea than God’s on how to change the stony, evil hearts of the modern day pharaohs of Hamas so they will free the Israelites from the missile barrages, border IEDS, fire balloons and other murderous attacks
I think it is clear that the “De Facto Ruler” over the Gaza Strip Khaled Mashal, is sitting safe in Qatar and has no problem with Yahya SinWar leading the attacks being removed as threat to his own leadership and will benefit with even more Aid and Cash for another day making SinWar a Martyr.
Prime Minister Netanyahu is wise to show restraint among criticism with hawkish remarks knowing unintended wars often have uncertain outcomes. As Gaza’s Buildings come down but Gazan causalities are avoided. This will only upset Fatah and Hezbollah looking for their own payoffs as Hamas takes Cash.
Unlike President Clinton, Bush, and Obama. America will just leave it up to Netanyahu. As Iran would love another Intifada and Saudi Arabia would also welcome a distraction at this time.
Meanwhile, the Birth of a Red Heifer, Fish in the Dead Sea and a Snake crawling out of the Wailing Wall will not stop Israel’s existence and will keep standing to do the right thing in the tradition of Abraham seeking Middle East Friends into a Family of Allies, and still reaching out to Enemies to make them become friends for Mutual Regional stability and prosperity.
Why not repeat the success of the assassination efforts after Munich? Removing the top two leadership levels will quickly reduce the ability of Hamas to do, or even think to do, anything. It would ultimately be futile to put many lives at risk when only a few well trained could have the same effect.
If your going to go that far, and not saying it is a bad idea … why not target the top three command tiers … and 3 generations of said each … and have peace for next 20 years at least. Israel has the technology and capability to do this in one hit. Why haven´t they.??? This is what always puzzles me!
It’s way past time to push the Hashemites into the sea!
Once Israel’s ground troops get bogged down in Gaza Hisbullah/Iranian satellites will attack in the North under Russian Air Force umbrella and with Russian special forces as “advisers”. To avoid this Israel’s Air Force needs to burn Hamas leadership out of their hiding while IDF special forces simultaneously will be capturing/killing them. As a distraction Israel’s artillery should be destroying all Gaza’s water, fuel and food depots while the Air Force and special forces conduct their operations. Israel should use radio-logical weapons to create total panic among Gaza civilian population. The operation should last a short time and be completely devastating to Hamas and the population of Gaza.
You make excellent points.
Amen, . . . buy a couple hundred thousand bombs from the US, . . . and just saturate the area, . . . if anything is alive after that, . . . just shoot it.
A proportional answer is more appropriate.
Maximum 400 planes bombing for 400 days, not more!
this should have been avoided, but now that it is here, there is no choice. israel will have to occupy gaza and remove hamas. it is also clear that in the case of a war with Hezbollah, Gaza cannot cannot be flapping in the breeze. so now it is time for a quick and massive operation to occupy gaza and dismember hamas. the hamas leadership and members can be held in a mass prison and exiled to a third country afterwards. it’s not ideal but for the coming problems with Hezbollah it is better to occupy gaza now than to leave it. the problem is the large scale civilian casualties that will happen in gaza but now the whole situation has become too existential to worry about this.
gazan shout revenge for the Israeli mission in gaza and respond with 400 rockets aimed everywhere.
For months, israel has threatened retaliation for the fire kites and bombs but hasn’t followed through. Instead they give fuel to hamas.
After 400 rockets, Israel reacts by advance warning of attacks and bombing empty areas. This. Is not a sign of strength and hamas knows it. This is why hamas can continue to threaten Israel with more violence. And Israel continues to act weak.
Didn’t we learn anything from WW2?
Stop attacking empty buildings. Stop announcing your attacks. Wipe out All their bombing and military targets. Have the army shoot anyone coming across the border. Present your position- properly, to the world press.
Do it before it gets worse,
Unfortunately, Bibi sees Hamas in Gaza as useful idiots that counter Fatah on the West Bank. As long as Hamas is around opposing Fatah, it allows Bibi not to negotiate anything with the Palestinians. Once Hamas is removed, Bibi has to deal with Fatah and the terms of Israeli-Palestinian agreements. Politics is a dirty game. Hamas is still very useful to Bibi even if it kills Israelis.
The army will not get bogged down if they fight to WIN. That means eliminating all opposition mercilessly and also includes their supporters who provide cover for the opposition. “Humanitarian” gestures have no place here.
In 1967 it took two days to conquer Gaza. This can be repeated.
Europeans who protest in favor of the “Palestinians” should be told to take them in.
Wishful thinking, and if Isreal attempts ground invasion she would be humiliated by Hamas. I think Hamas needs to get effective MANPADS to pluck Isreali jets from the sky. This is what they lack . Iran must try to
supply them these weapons. Hamas today isn’t Hamas today because they are now a force to reckon with.
One or 2 nukes and no more Gaza problems. Then it will be the turn of Hezbollah in S. Lebanon and Syria/Iran. The world will cry bloody murder but with no more threats on the borders, Israel can tell them to stuff it.
THE FREE SYRIAN ARMY WILL GET THESE MANPADS FIRST AND FOREMOST AGAINST ASSAD AND HIS ALLIES IN SYRIA.
” The operation should last a short time and be completely devastating to Hamas and the population of Gaza.”
@Anonymous,
But………………………that’s not the “politically correct” thing to do! Those who live outside of Israel and are so far away from the danger would be yelling: “disproportionate response” and would condemn Israel for daring to defend themselves…………….were the rocket attacks on Israeli communities even reported by the “international media” or did they only cover Israel’s response…………sort of like the way the Arab League covers events between Israel and Palestinian terrorists!
I believe the scenario you refer to as “avoidance” is already happening…hence the fight back to lines the other day with loss of a LTC. An Israeli LTC IO on ground in Gazza only tells me that they already had SF´s on ground for such an escapade. They did get several specific beneficial targets, I believe.
Netanyahu is a blow hard. I seriously doubt he will do anything other than blowing up empty buildings. That said Hamas is in an excellent position. Israel does not and will not reoccupy the Gaza strip. The first civilian killed in Gaza will result in the UN attacking Israel. Short of Hamas rocketing Ben-Gurion airport I don’t see Netanyahu taking any serious action. In part, this mess is due to the Sharon and his bloat sense of self worth.
” Short of Hamas rocketing Ben-Gurion airport I don’t see Netanyahu taking any serious action.”
@Benjamin,
Is that what they’re waiting for…………..Iran may already be in the process of making that happen through their proxies soon, but right now, the ball is in Israel’s court!
Gaza is the first and easiest target that Israel should deal with. Israel should remove the terrorist threats from Gaza and rule over Gaza restored to the PA. Ja Ja Sin War should be targeted since he is Iran’s number one man in Hamas.
The UN will never attack Israel….never!. America holds same veto power as Russia and China in the securities council. Understand now? !
If the Israelis don’t care that their homes and children are constantly under threat then why should I care?
“If the Israelis don’t care that their homes and children are constantly under threat then why should I care?”
@David,
It sounds like you likely didn’t care to begin with…………………so why bother coming on this site?
BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ALL LIKE YOU. VERY SIMPLE.
hamas is destroying israel. excellent. bomb all the marocons from ashqelon and south israel. israel is weak
is hezballah attacks with 5000 rockets israel will be destroyed alahu akbar
“hamas is destroying israel. excellent. bomb all the marocons from ashqelon and south israel. israel is weak
is hezballah attacks with 5000 rockets israel will be destroyed————-”
@leon abramovici,
When this is all over, you will be observing 2 separate nakbas————one for 1948 and another for 2018!
It is Arab stupidity, like your own that keeps moronic Arabs just going back to attack Israel. After having your butts reamed last 4 times … every time in fact … you still keep crying and fighting and lying and making problems. You do realize … one day … just one day, you will actually make Israel finally fear you … and then …. its all over for you. You will just disappear in a puff of really hot air to no longer exist … and Israels land will grow three fold in one day. Keep up the good work in progressing Israel. 🙂
hamas will destroy israel towns and kill all the marocon nazis alahu akbar
WE WILL USE YOUR SHARMOUTA MOTHER AS A CONDOM.
“hamas will destroy israel towns and kill all the marocon nazis————-”
@Anonymous,
Here is a copy of a previous response made to one of your “fellow jihadists”:
“When this is all over, you will be observing 2 separate nakbas————one for 1948 and another for 2018!”
hamas jihad and hezballah should bomb south israel together
“hamas jihad and hezballah should bomb south israel together”
@pulache,
Well, one could only guess that you’re being relatively “nice” in stating that those terrorists should only bomb south Israel and, presumably, leave central and northern Israel alone.
However, Here is a copy of a previous response made to (now 2) of your “fellow jihadists”:
“When this is all over, you will be observing 2 separate nakbas————one for 1948 and another for 2018!”
Any concerted effort by both to attack Israel at same time would be fatal for both jihad groups. That would play into Israeli hands and they could destroy you both without having to worry about the women and children you push into the front line, without the usual world criticism…in fact, it would bring a UN coalition running to their aid, without inviting Russia or China, as you would understand! .
You missed the part about this current escalation being started by a botched Israeli undercover operation….
Mofonakba,
You missed the part about this current escalation being started by the arson attacks on Israel from Gaza
Israel, time to “mow the lawn” in Gaza. But this time – neutralize Hamassholes.
Israel knows where the Hamass hideouts are. Bye Bye Hamass.
It wasn’t botched…they got both Hamas assets. And even that was just part of response to rockets and fires from gazza and hamas. The Commandos killed both hamas officers who orchestrated those attacks. The rockets followed in such vast numbers cos you lost so much and there was nothing you could do to stop it, lol! So…guess you missed a lot there yourself….. like starting at the beginning. 😛
Will Israel do what it takes? That depends.
If Israel is ready to be rid of the constant rocket attacks, arson balloons, stabbings and vehicle attacks, they certainly have the capability of doing what it takes. But of course the UN and leftists around the world will scream and point their fingers at Israel. If Israel is willing to take the heat from the leftists then they have every capability they need to rid themselves of the muslim curse.
I personally don’t think Israel is ready to do that yet.
DRIBBLING NONSENSE FROM BLABBERING GRAY AGAIN.
Go ahead. Defend your filthy mind.
A potential scenario: Israel hammers Gaza, UN assigns Russia to stop Israel in Gaza. Russian marines land in Gaza if Israeli troops are not there. If Israeli troops control the Gaza seashore then the Russians/Hizballah/Iranian puppets “extend a helping hand to the suffering population” of Gaza through an invasion of North Israel. Either way Hamas is being paid for provoking a Russia-Israel war. A war that Bibi is desperately trying to avoid. Such a war (including Hamas provocations) is possible to \stop in its tracks by an IDF destruction of the S-300 Syrian air defense system. Such an act would prove to Putin that he is risking to lose his air force and naval bases in Syria should Israel attack them. If oil stays at $60 per barrel and Russia sustains heavy casualties in Syria Putin will lose his presidency and most likely his life while his exiled family loses its wealth. Bibi and Putin had met numerous times and both know the high stakes that each has in this game. Israel may cease to exist as a Jewish state and post-Putin Russia may break up into smaller provinces i.e. also cease to exist as a major power. Putin will not risk his life and the death of his dream of reconstructing the USSR unless he thinks that he is about to win. Israeli successful raids on Syria’s S-300 can stop these cataclysmic events. Just one man’s humble opinion.
You are a dreamer. Israel is being humiliated by Hamas with their crude WII katusha like rusted unguided rockets. What has Russia do to with Hamas and Gaza?
Hezbollah defeated Isreal in 2006 , and today in 2018 they would defeat Isreal completely, what Hamas needs is MANPADS .
WHAT THE FREE SYRIAN ARMY NEEDS IS MANPADS.
“Hezbollah defeated Isreal in 2006—————”
@Anonymous,
Not true. If Hezbollah actually did what you claim, there would be no State of Israel today.
A cease fire was mandated by the “international community” which resulted in the Israelis withdrawing from Lebanon at that time and was supposed to result in Hezbollah having no weapons in Southern Lebanon……………………the Hezbollah terrorists sure kept their word on that one!
some of you people talk like twelve year olds. I think that the last thing in the world that the U.S. would do is attack in Syria, too much risk involved. I am surprised that Hamas doesn’t have the Sams or man pads all ready, after all Egypt builds stinger missiles. Israel is in a whole and there is no easy way out any mass attack would bring the hell of the world down on them. Hezbollah doesn’t want Israeli land, neither does Syria, they just want back what they think is theirs. Now Turkey, Iran, and the rest of the Muslim world want Israel to be Palestine again and Jews part of it if they want to. The United States is not going to risk losing a conventional war and destroy their influence as well as their military. Just look at a map of the world and you will see that Israel and the USA are at a distinct disadvantage.
Russia can never attack Israel. It will never get permission from the UN as america has same veto power as Russia. All forget that. But…even if russia was so stupid as to do what you say…gazza would either disappear in a puff of Israeli nuke, along with all jihadists and Russian troops…or america would accept Israels invite, along with a major coalition of about 53 other nations outside UN (Might is right) …and possibly this time with the arab nations behind them in support of any war against shiite´s. and wipe the floor with an over extended russia who is under sanctions. 🙁
alah akbar hamas killed 3 jews in askelon alahu akbar kill all the jews
HOW WILL THAT SHARMOUTA YOU CALL MOTHER MAKE ANY MONEY? FROM WOLTHLESS AND PENNILESS MUDSLIMES LIKE YOUR FATHER?
alah akbar will kill you dirty jewish dog your mother is a whore and father a pig
alah nakba is heading to HELL to join your prophet of Satan who you call Mooooohammed.
Soon INSHALLAH!
And you were born from that white stuff dribbling down ya mothers leg…except you dont know which camel is the father! 😛
Allah is too busy being arse-phucked by the Jews to kill them…oh well, that’s life in the Pisslamic world.
alah akbar hamas and allah kill all the israelis..hezbalah should also attack
This above marked as sick hate speech made
by degenerate brain defective Muslim person
destroy all of ashqelon and kill all the jews alah akbar
destroy all of ashqelon and kill all the jews alah akbar
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I blame the people of Sderot and Ashkelon and all the other places that are getting bombed. They can get rockets themselves and hurl them back at the arabs. Instead they go on marches to Jerusalem as if their salvation will come from there. If they are unwilling to fight, as they learned from the previous yellow armband wearers then they have no chance.
Since the IDF is not doing anything, there is no need for such a large army. I suggest firing half of them and giving the money saved to Hamas. I think $15 million is not enough to buy protection. A billion or two might just get us the peace that we want.
Spoken like a true leftist. I hope you were just joking.
End ham-ass, and don’t stop pounding them until they surrender UNCONDITIONALLY.
That will send a message to hezbollah terrorists too, if they don’t get it, do the same to them.
End both terrorist groups for good.
How about a raid on their banks? How about turning off the lights and water? How about attacking from land. sea and air?
You only do these things if you want to win, so doing what you want is out of the question.
Israel should do what President Assad and Putin do to their enemies kill everybody and carpet bomb. Do what the Muslims do to enemy Muslims.
It’s time to overthrow Netanyahu liberman and the chief of staff.
From the Euphrates to the river Egypt, abraham, isaac and Jacob. יהוה will do this one day. Praise G-D for HIS goodness.
Sincerely,
jesusofnazarethkingofthejews
Amen, . . .
“jesusofnazarethkingofthejews”
@Keshti-miyshael,
The Romans had other ideas on that 2000 years ago.
Every time, EVERY SINGLE TIME that Israel has put a serious smackdown on Hamas they scatter like cockroaches and beg for a ceasefire. The missing element in the above analysis is WHY Israel has held back to date. The only reason that makes sense is that Israel does not want to become deeply entangled in Gaza because the necessary forces are needed elsewhere. Why remains unclear. If the answer is that they believe Iran/Hizballah will seize the opportunity to exploit resulting gaps in the north then Israel is already checkmated. If the answer is that there is a planned US-Israeli confrontation to end the Iranian-Lebanon-Syrian axis, or a joint attack on Iranian nuclear sites, we’ll we’ve all been waiting for this since 2001.
It’s interesting that Debka seemed to forecast a US-Israeli offensive against Iranian targets around the time of the gathering in Paris, but instead we see a Gaza rocket offensive against Israel. There is more than meets the eye in all of this, and unless one is inside the intel bubble, it seems there are missing pieces to this puzzle.
Israel has radiation weapons. All in Gaza must die.
Allah akBBQ?!
alah akbar will kill every jew in this world
Nuke Mecca.
You are deceived, and take your warning, bc God says you will have no excuse and that He makes Himself evident to everyone, so that they have a choice. Your allah seeks the death of everyone. The only people the Muslims hate more than the Jews are themselves, and if the Jews disappeared you could all return to the diligent work you are most accustomed to, killing each other.
Ha ha ha ha ha…ahhh ha ha ha ha ha!
FIRST WE WILL CONTINUE FUCKING THE SHARMOUTA YOU CALL MOTHER.
I would leave that one to the camels bro! Really, lol 😛
Israel should surrender Gaza , and not let anything go in our out, in other word create a Stalingrad , unfortunately it might not be possible to do it, but that is what i recommend,
Please bibi and co hold more talks, they haven’t the guts for a big ground operation.
Theres some talk that IDF forces are mobilizing for a ground war.
Don’t send troops in to Gaza no need to jeopardize Israeli soldiers lives. Shut off the electricity to Gaza and stop all shipments into Gaza. Start shooting artillery shells into Gaza from all over Israel. Ten shells for each rocket fired into Israel from Gaza. The starting number would be 4000. See how much of Gaza is left after 4000 shells explode indiscriminately in their territory. Then see if they are willing to have a cease fire.
bibi is a coward
so tel aviv gets hit… so .. full of gays and somalis.. and Jewish lives in ashkelon??
hit gaza and kill some arabs or go live in America bibi you traitor
gazan shout revenge for the Israeli mission in gaza and respond with 400 rockets aimed everywhere.
For months, israel has threatened retaliation for the fire kites and bombs but hasn’t followed through. Instead they give fuel to hamas.
After 400 rockets, Israel reacts by advance warning of attacks and bombing empty areas. This. Is not a sign of strength and hamas knows it. This is why hamas can continue to threaten Israel with more violence. And Israel continues to act weak.
Didn’t we learn anything from WW2?
Israel was able to defend itself in 48, 67, and 73 war. Why can’t they finally end this hanas problem?
Stop attacking empty buildings. Stop announcing your attacks. Wipe out All their bombing and military targets. Do it before it gets worse,
Zionists the enemies of Allah and his Prophet are at their weakest, this is the right time for Hamas, Egypt, Iran and the Arab world to launch an all out attack to free the middle east of the cancer in our middle and liberate all lands from Nile to Euphrates
Sooleeman Cocq, Your “Allah” is Satan and Moooohammed is the prophet of Satan.
MUDSLIME HAQ, YOU HAVE SWALLOWED TOO MUCH FERMENTED CAMEL PRICK JUICE. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
Destroy the enemy. Israel you must defend your land that God gave you. It does most certainly not belong to Hamas. Wipe out the Hamas leaders, all of them, and any soldier helping Hamas. There is a time to kill. Now Is the time to kill Hamas. God will stand with you Israel.
I dont think they will get much opposition from abbass if they dismantle hamas.
gaza and its habitants must be totally wiped off of the map of the earth…
I was thinking will remove the blockade an give them trucks with food and medicine and on each package will put David cross so they will understand how feed them.
But BiBi decide to pay cash! He wants hamas alive so will have two palestinan states so no agreement is possible.
Yeah resume more discussions on Tuesday…that’ll teach those Hamas pigs!!!! They must be scared to death!!
Netanyahu sounds an awful lot like Obama used to. All talk, no action.
Better to cower in shelters I guess…Never again is looking like now. This is what you get when you don’t finish an enemy and only fight for another brief round of calm. I’ve stopped feeling sorry for Israel since they don’t seem to care enough to stop the madness. Enjoy your shelters!
I know the emotions are high for Bibi to act decisively, which to a great extent, is expected of him. But we must understand his decisions come from huge piles of intels and influences from both friends and enemies. I think this Gaza thing is a trick and i believe he and his team understand it that much, because any wrong step may bring about WWW3. Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas and all their cohorts seem to have been waiting for this trigger. HOWEVER, since most of the nudging come from Iran, why not get Iran burning and smoking IN Iran? I believe its still called preemptive strike. Hit something in Iran, something really strong that they will need to go home to put out the fire, so strong that if after putting out the fire the hunger to endanger Israel wont be there any more. Your forefathers used same tactics.
Iran is a Russian tool to dominate the energy markets by a Russian military presence in the Middle East. If an important Iranian military installation is destroyed Russia will resupply Iran immediately. In the Middle East the Russian bear has degenerated into a snake. Hamas/Hizbullah/Iran/Iranian surrogates are the snake’s tail. Crippling the Syrian newly supplied by Russia air defense system may scare the snake into stopping the anti-Israel hostilities. If the snake doesn’t stop then the destruction of Russian air force and naval bases in Syria will certainly decapitate the snake.
In WWII the effective use of TalBoy bombs caused massive damage. These are 12,000 lb earthquake bombs that penetrate deep; their lateral explosion force flattens air pockets some distance away as an earthquake. One or two of these, strategically placed in the heart of Gaza city will implode strategic subterranean bunkers and shake the hell out of the leaders there. Survivors can then be buried normally!
Israel has forgotten the lessens learned from the British general Orde Wingate. Instead of hunkering defensively in watch towers guarding the kibbutzim, he taught the young Jewish officers (including Dayan) to go on the offense, to inflict real pain on their oppressors. Israel, is caught up in a battle for world opinion, trying to placate the leftists in Europe and America in a manner that the Jews in Europe were afraid to get Franklin Roosevelt to save their fellow Jews from the gas chambers. It is not going to work. In fact, better to be respected than loved. For the last thirty some years, since the Lebanon operation in the early eighties, Israel has played defense and the danger is growing steadily. It is counterproductive to rely upon such things as the Iron Dome, and Hamas will erode Israel’s supply of these weapons. The Air Force tit for tat is ludicrous! Yes there will be casualties, the world will rant and rave, but it is time to really go all out and do what must be one, and soon, while there is still a friend in the Oval Office.
Yes- Bibi is a weak secular Jew under threat from enemies and friends. We Jews need a powerful Torah based King like King David was- a wise man and a scholar and warrior not under threat from democracy friends and enemies. A warrior who will smash the Arabs in Gaza Lebanon and Syria and smash Iran in Iran. And will smash Russia in Syria if need be. I say always follow the money- Hamas is being paid by Iran and Russia to start a war so that Russia can invade the Golan and Galilee and steal Jewish oil under the Golan deep under and steal Jewish gas off the coast of Haifa- Remember Putin wanted Bibi to sign a deal with Russians to develop Jewish gas off Haifa and Bibi said no? Putin is a KG warrior gangster man. He is coming for revenge to steal Jewish oil and gas and smash Israel’s army in the Golan and Galilee with advanced Russian power. Israel never uses its power anyway- they let Hamas humiliate them and hurt Israeli citizens so why do we need Bibi and Israel? Russia sees this and the Persians and Arabs see it- so we will see a Biblical invasion by Russia and Persia of Golan and Galilee. Jews- wake the hell up and return to your Torah the way of the Divine and spiritual- you need a warrior wise King because all you have now is cappucinnos in Telaviv and a leader as weak as a mouse.
Israel is very weak compare to old days, the IDF can’t enter Gaza, maximum they can do is to bomb from sky.
Seriously… This is a bit like Northern Ireland… Basically the PSNI would withdraw there presence to prevent a flare up sometimes. Israel is simply trying to do the same. No one really wants war. Not even Hama’s. This was Hama’s controlled and strategic retaliation. There is some kind of very wierd reasoning…
My God, you guys here have balls-for-brains. What actually happened here? Israel & Hamas were getting close to negotiating some kind of deal. So what does Israel do at this sensitive time? It sends in an assassination squad. Hamas responded predictably: “if you break an agreement, we will unleash what-little-hell-we-can on you”. That’s what actually happened while you guys are all depicting it as if Hamas chose out-of-the-blue at a whim to majorly attack. Fools.
There are two interpretations of Israel’s actions. One: shmucks. What was the point of this assassination? It was so important? Yes it’s pos. that Israel acted incredibly foolishly.
Two: Israel was being “smart.” They deliberately incited Hamas’ attacks. They knew how Hamas would respond and they want a pretext for invasion or some major action.
And clearly, the IDF also knows that it can count on the mass of Israelis to act like mad dogs vs the Palestinians at very slight provocation – as you guys here are demonstrating, over and over. There seem to be v. few here who wouldn’t happily step up to be a Jewish Eichman.
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Maybe you didn’t notice that Israel has switched roles with the Nazis – now you’re the camp commandants of 5 million Palestinians – and if you just care to read the comments on this page – you’re the ones talking about mass extermination. And you’re the ones bragging about showing no mercy. Nice.
Another “emergency meeting” by our cowardly government is about to convene. Usual vernal masturbation will take place…
Israel is the most accomplished expert at bombing empty buildings.
Israel needs to strike and strike hard, extremely hard while the USA has a Christian man in the White House who supports them. The Democrats and the Elite Swamp are trying hard to put back in anti-Christian leadership, so we don’t know how long the US will keep this leadership. The world and the evil are fighting hard to get rid of Trump, so to Israel: seize the moment and strike to devastate!
Amen
The IDF and Netanyahu are a joke. Not only do they let their civilian population suffer in bomb shelters every night they take pride in bombing empty buildings. Then they telephone the enemy their plans to bomb a stategic site and beg them to please evacuate… the bombing will commence in 1 hour 10 minutes and 10 seconds. It’s time to kick out these no nvt wimps and get some real leadership in Israel.
I wonder how empty building symbols look on Israeli aircraft as “kill symbols”? Bet the pilots are high fiving back in the barracks….How many empty buildings did you get man????? I missed on purpose the first bomb so I could watch them empty out in droves so I could score my empty hit…ALRIGHT!!!!!!!!
The new “Sampson Option”…Ahhh everybody attention….please vacate the building in an orderly fashion…I will be pulling down the pillars on myself and this empty stadium in exactly 5 minutes. Please I don’t want any enemy casualties.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Attention Gaza….There will be a ground invasion in the coming hours…Please paint a red mark over the doorposts of any houses and buildings that you want to protect. We will avoid those places. By the way…fake another cease fire while we are invading and our leaders will immediately recall us.
And if the rockets reach Tel Aviv, then all restraints should be “off the table”. Everything in Gaza is a target.
In the meantime, send Sinwar to gehinnom, so he may collect his 72 “virgins”.
As of 9:40 am est it looks as if Hamas has the whip hand. Rather sad commentary on Israeli leadership or the lack thereof.
Don’t think so , israel already asked for ceasefire.
Like I have said in the past, the problem is with Israeli leadership. They do not recognize how big the threat is. The correct action is to reoccupy the Gaza and deport all combatants or kill them in place. It appears to me that the Israeli leadership is more worried about EU opinion and business deals they have with them than protecting the Israeli people. Now you need leaders who think like Prussians, Not sheep waiting to be slaughtered.
@………..Douglas B. Vogt………….”Correct” Sir…I think its all that Head Banging and Wailing on them Wailing Walls thats Fuc–d their WEAK Brains up…A bit like a Car Crash Victim Suffering with Hallucinations,Delusional thoughts and Permanent Brain Damage..
These Softy Weak Leaders are Laughed at by the Whole World ,esp…Prophet Mohammed Poison Putin. … Just Facts not WEAK Fiction.
Wake Up, it has all been foretold, you cannot undo what is written, those who worship God will pass this test called life and experience the everlasting, those who do not will disappear as though they never existed. You, Me, We actually have no say as our emotions/beliefs are embedded by God before time began. Relax enjoy the ride and know that God never lies.
Time to take Gaza back!!!!!!!!
When Hamas starts worrying about the safety of Israeli civilians, Israel should start worrying about the safety of Palestinian civilians. Until then, drop the bombs.